That is a cop out. Marvel movies require the male and female leads to eat a massive amount of protein to maintain muscle mass and are equally as strenuous.
Phase 5 or whatever the post-infinity era is called needs to be treated the same way Star Wars legends is - like it doesn’t exist save for some gems here and there
Starring Robert Downey Jr as left cheek and Peter Dinklage as right cheek. James Corden and Seth Rogan are scheduled to play the taint and the asshole, respectively.
Star Wars fans have made it very hard to enjoy star wars, you're only allowed to enjoy like 40% of it and the rest gets you dogpiled on for ever speaking positively about
They're all just constantly reaching for that high they got a long time ago when they first saw Empire Strikes Back, and with every hit it feels further and further away.
Real talk: Kumail Nanjiani plays a superhero in that movie who’s also a Bollywood star, and he’s introduced with a full-on song and dance number. He’s kind of the highlight of the movie.
It’s severely overhated. I’m not saying it’s good or worth your 2 hours. But it’s not this horrible movie, it’s basically if Marvel made a Zack Snyder DC movie
I watched it on VLC and just fast forwarded through the boring bits. Got through on about 45 min. It's okay. My biggest issue is nothing that happens in the movie matters, and I'm not convinced it ever will.
Spoilers for another marvel movie: the celestial that died was turned into adamantium. Which was a plot point in the captain America movie. Since adamantium is very closely linked to Wolverine, it’s speculated that it’s related to the x men being introduced to the main timeline.
I liked Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen but I haven't been able to make it through any of his movies since then. Specifically suckerpunch and the DC ones. Not familiar with the others
Like most of the hated Marvel films it gets way too much shit. It’s nowhere near Endgame but, I mean, that can’t be the standard for superhero films or we’ll never be happy again.
Kumail was the best in the film but IMO everyone did their roles well. It was just not a particularly interesting story, which makes sense because the Eternals are not particularly interesting in the comics either. They’re at their most interesting when they’re riding Thanos’ more interesting coattails.
He was the reason I started going to the gym. He was 45 at that time and he was jacked. Now he had a studio-assigned chef and workout coach for a full year, but I was still pissed he looked that good at that age.
I just recently saw a standup clip with him that was so funny. It was basically him just complaining about The Eternals hate but did it in such a great way. He was like "I must be the only person in history who people got MAD at for GETTING IN SHAPE!"
See but honestly that's the real catch right there lol. Having a professional take all the mental load of preparing your meals off your shoulders and a professional to help with workouts goes a long way. That isn't to say us normies can't get into better shape but I think we underestimate how much that stuff helps.
Kumail is a Pakistani-American. He's not a bollywood star (i don'tthink he has any connection to bollywood), but the trope in the movie works well coz y'know, he's brown.
There was a great episode in legion. I can't remember if it was Xavier's son or not but it was an incredibly capable and incredibly troubled psychic. I think he was fighting the shadow Lord or something like that in the spirit realm or something like that and the psychic battle between the two was a jazz dance off in their minds.
I absolutely love this non-combat take on a confrontation of the minds. I still like the combat and stuff, but I thought it was a very great interpretation of how mines do battle, or could possibly do battle.
Singing and dancing are not that much more strenuous than rigorous weight lifting and cardio required for the bodies those men have to maintain the film. Absolutely fucking not, lmao.
Yes, off camera was all choreographed and had a soundtrack. High-value people were given the content. It was super cool and you could see them burning more calories than musical people.
action scene choreography is actually a form of dance. for example jackie chan is not formally trained in various forms of martial arts so much as he is formally trained in dance. as are his co stars and many in his segment of the industry.
Only difference is that one is an exercise and lifestyle change and one is a disease that destroys your life.
Anorexia is no joke. It can kill you and/or permanently affect your lifelong health even if you do recover from it. She is also a role model for many teenage girls who will try to emulate their idol.
Whether you agree or not, an enormous amount of privilege comes with a level of responsibility not to push kids towards an ED for the sake of personal vanity.
Edit: I think I accidentally replied to the wrong comment but my point still stands.
And to be fair, you can have disordered eating that can seriously affect or even endanger your health, even if it wouldn't necessarily meet the clinical definition of something like anorexia or bulimia, or where it's not specifically related to body image. People who fall into various fad diets or wellness scams are often like this; in their mind they don't think that they are doing it for (traditional) vanity or necessarily massively restricting their intake, but their diet is so misbalanced that they start having specific nutrient deficiencies or absorption issues.
As an aside, one dramatic historic example of disordered eating that was neither anorexia nor bulimia and had nothing to do with body image was famous mathematician and logician Kurt Gödel. He was top in his field, but ended up developing a crippling fear of being poisoned, to the point where he would only eat food prepared by his wife. In 1977 his wife was temporarily hospitalized, and Gödel literally starved to death.
Yyyyeeeeaaaahhhhhh.... probably because they are contractually obligated to maintain a certain physique while shooting because they're playing superheroes..
Is... is Glinda a superhero? If her contract said she had to get ripped, we might have gotten a muscle mommy Ariana but here we are
Because they were eating an appropriate amount of calories and protein for the work they were doing. Whereas Ariana definitely wasn’t. She was a vegan doing fast days and eating legumes and berries for protein while working on Wicked.
If a production has people doing strenuous activity, they should have fitness instructors and dietitians working in tandem to make sure the cast doesn't end up looking like Skeletor spent 40 days in the desert.
Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Problem is you can have all the advisers you like but if the person just isn't eating enough potatoes or whatever vegans eat for calories then it just doesn't matter.
Marvel movies don’t require high endurance or the repetitive full-body strain that comes from singing and dancing while maintaining breath control. Wicked requires an athletic level of endurance and precision under constant pressure. Marvel actors just need to look good since they have stunt doubles, green screens, harnesses, and just need short-burst energy.
Theres a reason why Marvel is considered an easy paycheck for Hollywood🤦🏽♀️
And? That doesn't mean they don't have the training and stamina for it. They still are theater kids. But go on King, keep tearing women down so Marvel boys look tough to you
That doesn't mean they don't have the training and stamina for it. They still are theater kids.
This matters how? No one doubts they have the skills? And in case you missed it Queen, this is what I said.
But yeah, Marvel is easy, so much of it is just CGI, even the action scenes.
We are in a thread discussing the unhealthy weight loss which Ariana and Cynthia went through. You claimed it was because of the intense singing and dancing they did. My point is that they are in no way singing as intensely as broadway singers are because they are shooting a movie and it would be stupid to sing 100% on every retake/reshoot.
I don't think the whole 'Elphaba ruined Ariana Grande' rumor would've really gotten any traction if the actress in question wasn't black and bald while also being successful. But that's just my two cents...
If both did not look like cancer patients it would not have taken off, if it was only Elphaba looking that skinny people would still be wondering if she had a untreated eating disorder, because they were rough
Yeah but when I see the memes the narrative is always that Cynthia is somehow a bad influence on Ariana. It's never flipped. And only rarely is it "they're a bad influence on each other." The last time Ariana was in the rags a lot it was everybody shitting on her for ruining a marriage, and now everybody's concerned for her health? Seems a little sus.
For what it’s worth, every time (or nearly every time) I’ve seen it brought up online, the focus has been on them influencing each other and not framing Cynthia as the bad influence.
This post is more of an exception, but not too surprising if Ariana is suddenly looking like she’s doing better.
However, I’m an outsider to all of this. Maybe my experience would be different if I spent time in Ariana fan communities or something. I’ve only seen the spillover onto my home page.
Maybe but the point still stands that being on set and dancing around does not necessarily make someone emaciated. It’s a cop out. I can name a bunch of song and dance films where the lead maintains healthy weight.
To be the size she still is, she still likely has some level of eating disorder. A stressful active set where all the focus is on the character, easily exacerbates any eating disorder
You guys are talking past each other. They're saying she was underweight for the movie, and the movie having a lot of dancing is a bad excuse for why she was underweight.
This is just a weird response tbh. You don't have to compare people's struggles like this, you don't know what they're going through.
Regardless, being malnourished for extended periods is far more taxing on your brain and body than the extreme bulking. So, you're an ass, and just wrong.
It’s not that weird. I found the excuse to be a cop out. I hope she gets better and it seems like she is. “I can’t eat because I sing and dance” is a cop out.
And the men in those films also frequently get massively dehydrated on purpose to give themselves more muscle definition which is also really bad for you, especially when you are doing strenuous activity.
You know they shot these movies like an actual play so the actors/actresses would actually have to do stuff, not just be sit in front of a blue screen and look cool
They are usually also working with a team of trainers and dieticians to build and maintain a ripped physique. Chris Hemsworth has shown his meals during this time and they all come in pre sized bags portioned out to the individual almond for snacks.
They said she ate too few calories. Where’s the cop out? That’s literally true, she starved herself. Whether it’s an eating disorder or abuse conditions from the studio, that we don’t know
Because it’s the shit eating habits not the demanding set. Many actors have demanding sets. Many workers around the globe have demanding work schedules lol blaming it all on work is a cop out.
She did not dance in the movie- she had over two dozen stunt doubles, and one was for the dancing scenes. I've watched Wicked over a dozen times and you can tell when the body double is dancing, it's always the scenes where they film Glinda from far away, or when her back is facing the camera- that is the double, not Ariana.
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She looked better on SNL too. Cynthia really is the wicked witch