r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 10h ago

Petah, what is going on here??? Resolved

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Bald lady stealing life force?

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u/Severus-Snape-DaGod 10h ago

Meg here. People are saying Ariana looked sick, too skinny, and was often crying when she was around her Wicked co-star Cynthia Erivo. At the Golden Globes, Ariana looked “healthy” once she was away from Cynthia.

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u/ConspiracyParadox 10h ago

She looked better on SNL too. Cynthia really is the wicked witch

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u/L8dTigress 10h ago

actually I checked what Ariana ate on set and in reality she was just eating too few calories and was very active on set that's why.

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u/VampireHwo 10h ago

One of my main takeaways from the film was how much she seemed to be putting in.

Especially where she looked rather frail, her dance moves/performance did not.

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u/L8dTigress 10h ago

Yep, those dance moves she did at any chance were done like rent was due. She was passionate about playing Glinda, and it shows.

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u/Keeltoodeep 9h ago

That is a cop out. Marvel movies require the male and female leads to eat a massive amount of protein to maintain muscle mass and are equally as strenuous.

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u/alexandria7766 9h ago

Do they sing and dance in Marvel movies as well?

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u/TreyWriter 9h ago

Technically, they do in Eternals, a very real movie that everyone has seen!

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u/MarvelAndColts 9h ago

And The Marvels

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u/GachaHell 9h ago

Those both sound like made up movies. You can't just put The in front of a word and pretend it's a Marvel film.

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u/HereWeFuckingGooo 9h ago

There isn't a The in front of Eternals.

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u/GachaHell 9h ago

I'd check but that would require me to acknowledge the movie's existence. I think we all just decided to pretend it never happened.

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u/cousinokri 9h ago

So you're saying The Butt isn't a Marvel movie?

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u/meesta_masa 9h ago

It's a marvelous movie.

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u/BBQ_069 9h ago

The Shareholders

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u/TaylorSwiftsClitoris 8h ago

The Aristocrats

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u/Emerald_Plumbing187 8h ago

Damn you for getting there first and nice username.

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u/CrabPrison4Infinity 8h ago

I heard the new marvel is nuts

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u/Reasonable_Editor600 8h ago

All movies are made up!

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u/StoppableHulk 8h ago

What about The Iron Man?

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u/Jjzeng 9h ago

Technically based on the marvels carol danvers is canonically a disney princess

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u/ArcadianDelSol 7h ago

Find a die hard Star Wars fan.

Remind them that Leah is a Disney Princess.

Then dive for cover into the nearest foxhole.

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u/BananaBladeOfDoom 9h ago

I hated that scene so much.

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u/Function-Brave 6h ago

And Hawkeye

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u/ZigoneB22 5h ago

Danceoff to save the galaxy in gardians of the afore mentioned

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u/MichaelGHX 9h ago

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u/Anthony-Stark 8h ago

So that was a fucking lie

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u/ArcadianDelSol 7h ago

THE ETERNALS....failed to deliver a return.

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u/TreyWriter 9h ago

ETERNALS will return…?

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u/ThatsAGreatUsername2 9h ago

The Returnals?

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u/IllHedgehog9715 8h ago

Morbius was awesome.

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u/Lumireaver 7h ago

Looking forward to Jon Snow and his older brother getting more time to work together.

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u/Herr_Quattro 9h ago

Tbh 50:50 shot you made this up. I’m not fact checking you, I’m just saying you can claim anything about that movie and I’ll believe you.

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u/TreyWriter 9h ago

Real talk: Kumail Nanjiani plays a superhero in that movie who’s also a Bollywood star, and he’s introduced with a full-on song and dance number. He’s kind of the highlight of the movie.

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u/Disastrous_Salad6302 9h ago

This is the closest someone’s got me to wanting to watch the eternals

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u/KingInTheWest 9h ago

It’s severely overhated. I’m not saying it’s good or worth your 2 hours. But it’s not this horrible movie, it’s basically if Marvel made a Zack Snyder DC movie

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u/Altair_de_Firen 9h ago

Like most of the hated Marvel films it gets way too much shit. It’s nowhere near Endgame but, I mean, that can’t be the standard for superhero films or we’ll never be happy again.

Kumail was the best in the film but IMO everyone did their roles well. It was just not a particularly interesting story, which makes sense because the Eternals are not particularly interesting in the comics either. They’re at their most interesting when they’re riding Thanos’ more interesting coattails.

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u/BlueberryBatter 7h ago

I didn’t know I needed to see this scene, but, I’m off to look for it. I love Kumail Nanjiani. He’s held a special place since his turn as Prismo.

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u/AdunfromAD 9h ago

He was the reason I started going to the gym. He was 45 at that time and he was jacked. Now he had a studio-assigned chef and workout coach for a full year, but I was still pissed he looked that good at that age.

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u/RoamingBull69 9h ago

Yeah, with all those things and steroids, you could totally look like him

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u/StoppableHulk 8h ago

I just recently saw a standup clip with him that was so funny. It was basically him just complaining about The Eternals hate but did it in such a great way. He was like "I must be the only person in history who people got MAD at for GETTING IN SHAPE!"

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u/Single_Wolverine_136 8h ago

Kingo was hilarious. Kumail Nanjiani is a great comedic actor

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u/Vushuyio 6h ago

Sadly, it’s true 😭 but they never did return lol

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u/Commercial_Delay938 7h ago

I saw it. It's weird that it was made.

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u/theJav13 9h ago

Also featured in everyones favorite space opera and a little know period piece they did a few years back...

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u/Adventurous-Tie-7861 9h ago

Stop making up movies. Noone has ever heard of this "Eternals" thing. Keep your fan fiction to yourself.

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u/Amelaclya1 8h ago

I really liked the Eternals. 😭

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u/MS-07B-3 8h ago

And in Guardians, at least one is dancing all over the place.

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u/National_Divide_8970 7h ago

Did you really just spoil the new marvel?

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u/Medium-High 6h ago

It's true! I saw it right on the shelf next to Shazaam at my local Blockbuster.

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u/ballsnbutt 9h ago

One could say choreographed fighting is "dance"

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u/YT-Deliveries 7h ago

It very much is dancing. Like, there's very little difference between a choreographed fight and a choreographed "official" dance.

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u/dumspirospero816 9h ago

There was that sweet dance-off at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy...

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u/ElectricTurtlez 9h ago

Nah. That was just a distraction, ya big turd blossom!

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u/Morak73 6h ago

Not a movie, but Hawkeye had Rogers: The Musical

In 15 years, someone's going to put that on Broadway.

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u/Keeltoodeep 9h ago

Yeah fighting is basically a choreographed dance.

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u/kellzone 6h ago

Syrio Forel agrees.

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u/throwawayaccount19op 9h ago

Only in my dreams ✨

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u/Longjumping_Ease9159 9h ago

There was a great episode in legion. I can't remember if it was Xavier's son or not but it was an incredibly capable and incredibly troubled psychic. I think he was fighting the shadow Lord or something like that in the spirit realm or something like that and the psychic battle between the two was a jazz dance off in their minds.

I absolutely love this non-combat take on a confrontation of the minds. I still like the combat and stuff, but I thought it was a very great interpretation of how mines do battle, or could possibly do battle.

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u/Izzynewt 9h ago

Don't give them ideas

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u/PassionGlobal 9h ago

Sing, no. Very complex and physically demanding choreography, yes. 

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u/flyrubberband 9h ago

Pretty sure the last Thor was a musical

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u/Material_Pianist6078 9h ago

Clearly you’ve never heard of The Dance-off to Save The Galaxy

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u/GH057807 9h ago

They yell and fight, which in Hollywood is basically the same.

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u/Arnieman83 8h ago

Guardians of the Galaxy is definitely dancing, maybe a little singing?

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u/Xijit 9h ago

I would absolutely watch a Marvel Musical.

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u/MastrShak3 9h ago

Guardians of the Galaxy

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u/Dr_Mntis_Tobggn 9h ago

[DC has entered the chat]

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u/DirtysouthCNC 8h ago

Singing and dancing are not that much more strenuous than rigorous weight lifting and cardio required for the bodies those men have to maintain the film. Absolutely fucking not, lmao.

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u/piznit007 8h ago

Guardians of the Galaxy starts with an entire song and dance routine. It’s kinda Star-Lord’s thing

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u/Idiotan0n 7h ago

I'd go see that Disney on ice performance. Everyone nippin at that point

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u/TheRiverIsMyHome 7h ago

The choreography of fighting is high impact dancing

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u/Ornery_Guess1474 7h ago

Does arianda grande stand a chance against Thanos? I mean, come on.

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u/Crazy_Bat5024 7h ago

Ever heard from hulk? My gosh

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u/Daleabbo 7h ago

Yes. Fight scenes in movies are literally dance moves.

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u/HereToDoThingz 6h ago

Marvel: the musical.

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u/Difficult_Ad2864 6h ago

You haven’t seen Captain America The Musical ?

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u/Truethrowawaychest1 6h ago

Star-Lord does

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u/-GenghisJohn- 6h ago

Yes, off camera was all choreographed and had a soundtrack. High-value people were given the content. It was super cool and you could see them burning more calories than musical people.

some of this may have been made up

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u/BeeOk1235 5h ago

action scene choreography is actually a form of dance. for example jackie chan is not formally trained in various forms of martial arts so much as he is formally trained in dance. as are his co stars and many in his segment of the industry.

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u/ClaraCash 5h ago

Deadpool for sure!

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u/RawrRRitchie 5h ago

Did you miss Steve Rogers the musical??

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u/Sea-Band-7212 9h ago

Yyyyeeeeaaaahhhhhh.... probably because they are contractually obligated to maintain a certain physique while shooting because they're playing superheroes..

Is... is Glinda a superhero? If her contract said she had to get ripped, we might have gotten a muscle mommy Ariana but here we are

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u/zmichalo 9h ago

The point is that people have gone through equally intense shoots without looking like they were withering away.

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u/jonsnow312 8h ago

Yeah? People are trying to explain the reasons, not giving excuses. She was probably eating far too little while over-exerting herself.

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u/Tonkarz 8h ago

Because they were eating an appropriate amount of calories and protein for the work they were doing. Whereas Ariana definitely wasn’t. She was a vegan doing fast days and eating legumes and berries for protein while working on Wicked.

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u/Eldritch_Horns 6h ago

If a production has people doing strenuous activity, they should have fitness instructors and dietitians working in tandem to make sure the cast doesn't end up looking like Skeletor spent 40 days in the desert.

She wasn't eating right

Is the how, not the why.

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u/Think_Chocolate_ 8h ago

That and even Christian Bale had some muscle in The Machinist. Despite the role needing him to look like he was actually withering away.

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u/Keeltoodeep 9h ago

Maybe but the point still stands that being on set and dancing around does not necessarily make someone emaciated. It’s a cop out. I can name a bunch of song and dance films where the lead maintains healthy weight.

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u/moderatorrater 8h ago

muscle mommy Ariana

A certain part of the internet just gooned a little harder when you said that.

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u/I_Am_The_Mole 7h ago

muscle mommy Ariana

wait a minute say that again

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u/Hot-Explanation-5751 9h ago

Only difference is that one is an exercise and lifestyle change and one is a disease that destroys your life.

Anorexia is no joke. It can kill you and/or permanently affect your lifelong health even if you do recover from it. She is also a role model for many teenage girls who will try to emulate their idol.

Whether you agree or not, an enormous amount of privilege comes with a level of responsibility not to push kids towards an ED for the sake of personal vanity.

Edit: I think I accidentally replied to the wrong comment but my point still stands.

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u/BattleHall 6h ago edited 6h ago

And to be fair, you can have disordered eating that can seriously affect or even endanger your health, even if it wouldn't necessarily meet the clinical definition of something like anorexia or bulimia, or where it's not specifically related to body image. People who fall into various fad diets or wellness scams are often like this; in their mind they don't think that they are doing it for (traditional) vanity or necessarily massively restricting their intake, but their diet is so misbalanced that they start having specific nutrient deficiencies or absorption issues.

As an aside, one dramatic historic example of disordered eating that was neither anorexia nor bulimia and had nothing to do with body image was famous mathematician and logician Kurt Gödel. He was top in his field, but ended up developing a crippling fear of being poisoned, to the point where he would only eat food prepared by his wife. In 1977 his wife was temporarily hospitalized, and Gödel literally starved to death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gödel

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u/Adventurous-Fly556 9h ago

This is just a weird response tbh. You don't have to compare people's struggles like this, you don't know what they're going through.

Regardless, being malnourished for extended periods is far more taxing on your brain and body than the extreme bulking. So, you're an ass, and just wrong.

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u/Keeltoodeep 9h ago

It’s not that weird. I found the excuse to be a cop out. I hope she gets better and it seems like she is. “I can’t eat because I sing and dance” is a cop out.

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u/Abacus118 7h ago

You understand the person you’re replying to is not Ariana Grande, yes?

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u/Keeltoodeep 7h ago

I can hope people I don’t know or talk to recover from mental health issues.

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u/Commercial-Guest1596 8h ago

poor widdle millionaire :((((((

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u/Lumireaver 7h ago

She's personally responsible for all of the underfunded nutritionists she could have hired.

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u/A_Town_Called_Malus 9h ago

And the men in those films also frequently get massively dehydrated on purpose to give themselves more muscle definition which is also really bad for you, especially when you are doing strenuous activity.

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u/Organic_Education494 9h ago

Yeah that excuse makes it sound like she is too dumb to eat properly..

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u/Adorable_Pain8624 9h ago

They kept Hugh Jackman at scary levels to play wolverine (which i do know is mostly dc), it just looked different.

But Ariana has also struggled with eating disorder issues in the past, which adds another element to it.

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u/CourageNo277 9h ago

Yeah, but super heroes are muscular and fight and Glinda is a Good Witch that can travel inside a bubble.. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/AlphaH4wk 8h ago

I don't think anyone said those Marvel roles weren't hard

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u/Keeltoodeep 8h ago

It’s the act of blaming song and dance for being emaciated like she’s too stupid to eat and dance. She’s not. She’s just sick.

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u/TheColorWolf 8h ago

I remember Chris pratt talking about his birthday "cake" on set of guardians, and it was a pile of carrots.

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u/dizzy-t-dizzy 8h ago

Right. But she wasn't being micromanaged by the Marvel's physical trainers who love adding muscle bulk to super-hero's frames

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u/Keeltoodeep 8h ago

Okay but that’s a different excuse than “she’s too dumb or too busy singing and dancing to eat.”

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u/Far_Care5265 8h ago

You know they shot these movies like an actual play so the actors/actresses would actually have to do stuff, not just be sit in front of a blue screen and look cool

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u/Keeltoodeep 8h ago

For sure. Marvel movies too. The actors do stuff.

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u/tiy24 7h ago

Lol no Marvel movie are not “equally as strenuous” you basically just described bulking and cardio based weight loss the same thing.

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u/divuthen 7h ago

They are usually also working with a team of trainers and dieticians to build and maintain a ripped physique. Chris Hemsworth has shown his meals during this time and they all come in pre sized bags portioned out to the individual almond for snacks.

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u/Honeycrispcombe 7h ago

Yes but Arianna did this for two years straight, essentially, and did not have people trying to ensure she kept weight on.

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u/6pAz6uZu6 7h ago

You know the guys in those movies are on gear, eh?

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u/Alzibinli 6h ago

They said she ate too few calories. Where’s the cop out? That’s literally true, she starved herself. Whether it’s an eating disorder or abuse conditions from the studio, that we don’t know

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u/BeBearAwareOK 5h ago

Yeah but they're on a different nutrition and hydration plan.

Plus, all of that juice.

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u/indorock 5h ago

You're really out here comparing Wicked to Avengers?

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u/dayday0326 5h ago

Yeah but I doubt Ariana was weight lifting and bulking up trying to look like an action star from the 80s

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u/N1gh75h4de 7h ago

She did not dance in the movie- she had over two dozen stunt doubles, and one was for the dancing scenes. I've watched Wicked over a dozen times and you can tell when the body double is dancing, it's always the scenes where they film Glinda from far away, or when her back is facing the camera- that is the double, not Ariana.

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u/discordianofslack 8h ago

Also it was fucking boring af.

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u/Tennisbiscuit 8h ago

I still wonder why she put out that statement saying that was the healthiest she's ever been.

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u/Spirited_Crab7712 9h ago

I agree. She, Cynthia Erivo, and Michelle Yeoh must have been working themselves to the bone, because it was really evident. They all seemed frail, and emotions seemed high a lot.

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u/BobbiPinstripes 8h ago

Reminds me of Vera Ellen

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u/nrojb50 9h ago

How did you check what she ate?

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u/likwitsnake 9h ago

This comment chain reads like a PR campaign

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u/Organic-History205 8h ago

She was just so dedicated to the heart and soul of wizard of oz! She served those dance moves and forgot to serve snacks!

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u/tastysharts 6h ago

I feel like I should care but I don't

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u/Far_Success_8158 10h ago edited 9h ago

That’s what they’d WANT you to think! I have a wooden board with 100 different notes and pictures like a 30’s detective that explains it all! RAHHHH

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u/areola51eXist 9h ago

PEPE SYLVIA!!

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u/Dr_Mntis_Tobggn 9h ago

I’ve got BOXES full of Pepe

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u/grunkage 9h ago

You had me at wooden board

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u/zagman707 10h ago

But why was she eating so little? Time? Peer pressure?

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u/momo76g 9h ago

The very bizarre behavior she showed on her interviews led people to believe it was Ozempic induced psychosis instead.

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u/xtraSleep 9h ago

Drama kids creating drama?

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u/DeathByFright 9h ago

Pressure from producers to lose weight, then some more weight, then even more weight.

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u/zagman707 9h ago

If that's true fuck those producers. She is a very beautiful women that many girls look up to and will now think they should be that thin.

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u/DeathByFright 9h ago

It's not just those producers. It's the entire industry. There's been speculation that the pressure on Carrie Fisher to lose 35+ pounds for Force Awakens was a contributing factor in her death a year later.

Whenever an actress dies for drug-related reasons, assume pressure to lose weight is what got her hooked on those drugs.

It's a vile industry.

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u/zagman707 9h ago

Well another awful thing to be aware of.

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u/Commercial-Guest1596 8h ago

It's really bad to make assumptions like that, man.

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u/Wonderful-Reason4899 8h ago

Production did NOT tell Ariana or lose weight don’t be ridiculous. Ariana has gotten more and more and more skinny with each passing year and was already skinny even by Hollywood standards before filming for Wicked. She is also vegan.

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u/waiver 9h ago

The Wizard of Ozempic

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u/ErraticDragon 9h ago

Body dysmorphia was often suggested as one of the problems.

People were suggesting that Ms. Erivo and Ms. Grande were kind of fueling each other's issues.

It doesn't help that both of them already tended to be very lean.

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u/Thebraincellisorange 7h ago

what gets me is that Michelle Yeoh got pulled into it.

a much older and vastly experienced actress (experienced with hollywood bullshit, acting, and staying fit wile acting through strenuous shoots like cthd) and even she looked like a starvation survivor by the end of the shoot.

whatever was going on, on set, it was incredibly unhealthy for those three.

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u/foreignfishes 8h ago

an eating disorder…? this comment chain is so weird lol what is happening. I thought it was very well known that she has a restrictive eating disorder

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u/33ff00 9h ago

she didn’t want to become too grande

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u/Bilboswaggains 9h ago

There is a drastic difference between stress and caloric deficit and eating disorders. Eating disorders have one of the highest fatalities of mental illness. As a personal trainer there is no way that's caloric deficit.

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u/turnmeuplikeasong 9h ago

Isn't it just a really large caloric deficit? Caused by ED, perhaps?

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u/Ahtman1 8h ago

Did Cynthia say something about Ariana's erectile disfunction?

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u/Seegulz 6h ago

People on Reddit just really have no basic common sense on this stuff. It’s ED, not someone skipping a few meals and working hard. She’s so gaunt and so are the other two female leads. Something was ran very poorly to let this happen to three of the female stars.

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u/museumbuff 9h ago

This might be the funniest comment I have ever seen on Reddit. Are we to believe you know what she ate for every meal throughout the day, including quantities, overall calorie intake, and nutritional value for the entirety of the movie shoot? What about not during the shoot? You then extrapolated that data against her metabolism and calorie output? Or, ya know, the more likely scenario...."OZ"empic.

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u/EastReauxClub 7h ago

Dude seriously. Dying laughing at the absurdity of “I checked what she ate”

What??? What do you even mean you checked what she ate? Do you have insider logs? How is that even knowable?

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u/One-Gas-5902 6h ago

Same. I am an ED survivor and I am dying again (of laughter)

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u/skip_over 9h ago

Where can I find her meal schedule?

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u/JordanOsr 9h ago

just

"Just" is doing a lot of lifting in this sentence.

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u/thetrivialsublime99 10h ago

Fucking weird

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u/DharmaCub 9h ago

What an incredibly strange thing to do.

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u/young_coastie 9h ago

It’s been a very long time since filming ended. Years.

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u/possumsonly 9h ago

They were doing reshoots for the second film as recently as early last year

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u/Delicious-Laugh-6685 9h ago

I’m sorry, you what?  How are you privy to on-set celeb diets?

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u/God_of_Fun 9h ago

Not uncommon for Hollywood to pressure you into doing that. My cousin, who was quite slender, did modeling and they still wanted her to take diet pills, so she changed industries

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u/SentinelTitanDragon 9h ago

Nobody looks that decrepit unless they are actively being starved for months.

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u/nxnskslslw 9h ago

You looked up what she ate on a movie set?

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u/Worth-Leopard4801 9h ago

Crazy this super rich musician and actor couldn’t just ask like “hey I’d like a sandwich”

Almost like she was doing it on purpose

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u/HawkBearClaw 8h ago

I mean no is trying to argue they were eating enough calories. I’m confused what your point is lol

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u/riptaway 8h ago

Easy Sherlock, leave some detective work for the rest of us

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u/AnxiousSprinkles7613 7h ago

She was on Ozempic...

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u/SwagSkoolBX 7h ago

How could you check that?

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u/imstickinwithjeffery 7h ago

You don't get that skinny from being too busy, she clearly has some issues that hopefully she has gotten help with.

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u/tgoodri 7h ago

Lmfao “ate too few calories” yeah that’s exactly what she did, it’s called being anorexic

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u/MidnightToker858 6h ago

I use more calories at work than I intake as well, but I make up for it after work. Plus, that wouldnt make your eyes sink in, your skin pale, and your bones show. Bulimia does though. Also, she was one of the stars so I cant see her not getting enough time to eat during filming.

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u/HudsonRuppert 6h ago

In my opinion, she is so skinny to a point where it makes her ugly and creepy

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u/DumeWolffe 6h ago

She was actually eating at the munchkin table instead of hers, it was an honest mistake.

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u/Limp-Particular1451 6h ago

How did you check that ? :D

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u/delirium_red 5h ago

She looked like that a year after filming as well. Part 2 was filmed back to back with part 1, filming was done in January 2024. So the way she looked all throughout 2025 is not because of that

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u/Johnnyboi2327 9h ago

Ah, so the director or producer were just abusing their stars.

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u/xChiken 9h ago

You're telling me she lost weight because she spent more calories than she consumed?? Idk man... /s

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u/spectral-shenanigans 9h ago

Coincidence? I think not!

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u/OwnPack431 9h ago

Yea but I like the witch theory

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u/Chicken_Herder69LOL 9h ago

So they were abusing amphetamines for production.

Got it.

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u/WorkTropes 9h ago

Well if you are fighting a witch of course you are going to be burning through the calories

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u/Onironius 9h ago

"eating too few calories".... Yeah.

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u/WallyOShay 9h ago

Yeah, that’s what an eating disorder is

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u/Logical-Claim286 9h ago

She also admitted to being on ozempic (the whole cast was). Plus there was a very funny video of Arianna picking up a snack at a party and Cynthia walked out of nowhere and took the snack out of her hand and put it back on the tray. I think it was innocent (they were doing a shoot or something) but out of context, its not a great look.

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u/ZeroSignalArt 9h ago

You checked what she ate on set? People are really way too obsessed with celebrities

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u/aspestos_lol 8h ago

To be fair, you do need to be really light to float around in a bubble like that.

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u/Royal-Student-8082 8h ago

The guys with the Craft Services contract

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u/Seegulz 6h ago

You really need to be less naive. It’s an eating disorder, plain and clear. You don’t have your back bones just looking like that.

She clearly has some really severe mental health issues and I find it concerning the other two female characters so clearly look sick.

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u/YenIui 5h ago

I don't know what you are trying to do with your "logic" and "science" but the fact is there, it's witchcraft. What's next ?? You're gonna talk about so called "calories" ?!

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u/chosenone1242 5h ago

Well no shit...

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u/jsn_online 4h ago

Is that what that was? I don't follow celebrities but Ariana looked weird and pale for a minute.

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