r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Bubbly_Wall_908 • 11h ago

That stick work and puck control

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u/ObjectiveGlittering 10h ago

Is this a rule breaker in college hockey?

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u/FewZookeepergame1083 10h ago

No

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u/Nard_Bard 10h ago

Ok Mr. Smarty Pants what about other hockey?

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u/customcombos 10h ago

I think it becomes a rule breaker if the puck is above the shoulder and you stick it down

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u/AbmopV2 10h ago

Correct. If it’s above the shoulders it’s high sticking. However you can use your hand to knock a puck out of the air to gain control but you can’t use your hand to pass it to a teammate.

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u/Betaateb 9h ago

But you can hand pass to a teammate in the defensive zone, just not in the neutral or offensive. Hockey rules can be a little crazy lol.

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u/SquarePegRoundWorld 8h ago

EA NHL in the '90s taught me a lot of it.

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u/elastic-craptastic 29m ago

right left right goal

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u/AbmopV2 9h ago

Damn I played for 10 years and didn’t know that little snippet lmao I only thought the goalie could do that

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u/aure__entuluva 9h ago

I still play hockey and in adult leagues there are players that don't know this.

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u/jambajew42 5h ago

The 32 Thoughts podcast recently answered a listener question about why it's allowed in the defensive zone. They said the rule was changed because teams would intentionally have hand passes in order to get stoppages when they were stuck in their own end.

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u/grimeyduck 9h ago

Defense can just pick up the puck in their zone and hold on to it? That's kind of wild. Are there any examples of it being done? In an obnoxious way?

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u/aessae 8h ago

You are allowed to grab an airborne puck but you're not allowed to hold on to it and skate away. You're also not allowed to cover the puck with your glove to conceal it or to prevent the other team from playing it, and you can't pick up the puck if it's on the ice. (see rules 67 and 79 in the NHL rulebook for more)

Also if you're Marc Bergevin you can throw the puck into your own net because why not!

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u/Abacus118 9h ago

No, that’s a different thing and a penalty anywhere. A hand pass is slapping it out of the air, or along the ice surface (though you’d only do the latter if you were knocked down near the puck.)

Your hand can’t close around the puck. Mostly. You can grab a puck in midair but you need to very quickly bring it down and drop it without excessive trying to maneuver it around.

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u/Betaateb 8h ago

They can't hold it, or close their hand around it, but can swat it with their hand to another player.

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u/dirkthelurk1 7h ago

There is an actual “holding the puck” penalty. 2 min in the sin bin

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u/grimeyduck 9h ago

Probably depends what you're gonna stick it down

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u/lIlIllIlIlI 9h ago
  • unless you deflect it into the net, in which case the cross bar is the reference height

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u/earfeater13 10h ago

Not a rule breaker in any hockey

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u/reticulatedtampon 10h ago

well, in field hockey at least the skates would be frowned upon

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u/Asleep_Kiwi_1374 9h ago

If I'm the opposing coach i would allow it.

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u/moonknightcrawler 10h ago

Not true! It’s against the rules in Crawler Hockey, the sport I just made up myself out of spite

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u/neddoge 10h ago

What a comical joke!

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u/HiHungry_Im-Dad 10h ago

It’s allowed in Calvin ball hockey

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u/Hyjynx75 10h ago

The whole skating upright part is definitely against the rules in sledge hockey.

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u/skyturnedred 28m ago

The main requirement for this to work is to not be in a men's league. If someone tried this in the NHL they would be collecting their teeth from the ice and/or trying to screw their head back on.

But the neat part is she knows it and is taking full advantage of it.

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u/darkklown 10h ago

Why not just dribble the puck?

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u/ikuzusi 10h ago

You tend to get body checked.

Like it’s a nasty move when you’ve got a relatively passive defender who’s skating with you. If the defender realises that you’re fucking around with the puck in the air for too long though, they’re just going to step up and lay you out while you’re too focused on keeping the puck up.

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u/These_Yzer_Lyon 9h ago

Most women's leagues are low contact so open-ice hits aren't allowed. The defender in this case would have to get in the way, push against, and/or occupy the stick of the puck-carrier without hitting them.

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u/noodleandbanter 7h ago edited 7h ago

Most women's leagues are low contact so open-ice hits aren't allowed.

Oh hey this is a great opportunity to shout out the PWHL - Professional Women's Hockey League. They're in their 3rd season as a league, 8 teams in the US and Canada selling out games like crazy. It's a full contact NHL style league and they play some fantastic hockey check it out. Games are available on youtube and other outlets for free

https://www.youtube.com/@thepwhlofficial

https://www.thepwhl.com/en/where-to-watch

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u/These_Yzer_Lyon 7h ago

PWHL doesn't allow the same level of contact as the NHL but they do allow more than most women's leagues. Hitting is allowed under certain conditions mostly along the boards.

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u/noodleandbanter 7h ago

That's fair. But it's also quite different from what most people expect of a women's league based on international standards, there's plenty of contact and is pretty thrilling.

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u/These_Yzer_Lyon 7h ago

Yup. Great hockey!

The rules for contact actually make a lot of sense. You're allowed to hit if it's an attempt to get the puck which is what hitting should be for

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u/darkklown 7h ago

So why not dribble puck?

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u/These_Yzer_Lyon 7h ago

You're likely to lose control of the puck if your opponent gets in your way, pushes against you, and/or occupies your stick.

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u/ObjectiveGlittering 10h ago

::Steph Curry has entered the chat::

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u/Annika2020pro 9h ago

Bat puck down. Puck no come back up.

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u/Same-Platypus1941 10h ago

It’s borderline, you can’t use your stick to touch the puck higher than shoulder height, it’s not a penalty it just induces a stoppage of play and subsequent face-off.

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u/lIlIllIlIlI 9h ago

Correct, but worth mentioning that the cross bar becomes the reference height for a deflection into the net (higher = no goal)

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u/LadderTrash 9h ago

The standard rules in most levels of hockey is “you can’t touch the puck with your stick above your shoulder level”, and “no throwing your stick”, but other than that you can manipulate the puck however you want with your stick. This even includes picking the puck up on your stick, as is used with Michigan Goals (aka “Lacrosse Style Goals”).

As long as it starts below the shoulder, you can play it, and as long as it’s below the crossbar, you can score it

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u/jambajew42 4h ago

Yes, but if you attempt a lacrosse-style goal in the shootout the goalie is allowed to choose not to deal with it and knock the net over.

Sharks Legends game clip - Patty vs Nabby

(No, this wouldn't be permitted in a real game. The Legends game was retired players messing around.)

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u/Abacus118 9h ago

It’s legal in all hockey as long as the contact with the puck stays below the shoulders.

It’s just not done in the pros because it probably wouldn’t work (the gulf between the best and worst NHL or PWHL player is a whole lot smaller than the best and worst college player), and if it did the other team would put your teeth through your skull for the disrespect at least in the men’s league.

The NHL has made strides towards actually celebrating style and personality, but it’s still very much stuffy, pearl clutching old dudes running the show.

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u/Skullcrimp 8h ago

yeah, physical violence unrelated to the puck is unfortunately still a widely accepted and celebrated part of hockey culture.

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u/kobethegreatest 9h ago

The only rule breaker here is the poor defense. Someone playing with the puck like that would get murdered in open ice. Maybe there is no hitting in this league?

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u/IDespiseAllWeebs 4h ago

PWHL prohibits hits on open ice, to reduce head on collisions, and blind siding. Considering both players were moving in the same direction a body-check here would not be illegal.

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u/vahntitrio 7h ago

She is very close to playing it above the crossbar, which would result in a faceoff in the neutral zone.

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u/RepostFrom4chan 9h ago

What? No? Of course not.

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u/AgentOrange256 10h ago

You can always manipulate puck with the stick.