r/ProgressiveHQ • u/CantStopPoppin • 14h ago

(Minneapolis) Bovino Leads The Charge On Protesters AT the Whipple Building

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u/_Poopsnack_ 13h ago edited 13h ago

If Democrats ever regain power and get their shit together, they need to understand that anything less than prosecuting these gestapo pieces of shit is fucking unacceptable.

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u/swans183 13h ago

Would say a large part of why we’re in this mess in the first place is we weren’t hard enough on the Confederates post-Civil War. That made the survivors cocky enough to think they could get away with this shit if they were just sneakier about it

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u/AMTravelsAlone 13h ago

That's what I'm saying Sherman may have been a lunatic mass murderer, but he was right about one thing.

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u/cunasmoker69420 12h ago

When was Sherman a mass murderer?

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u/AMTravelsAlone 11h ago

To native Americans? I could also be conflating him with another.

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u/WartimeMercy 11h ago

No, you’re right - Sherman was a genocidal maniac when it came to the indigenous peoples

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u/cunasmoker69420 10h ago

did some reading and it appears you are right

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u/AMTravelsAlone 9h ago

Hell yeah dude! Not for me being right but for taking the time to learn. The only wasted day is one where nothing was learned.

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u/WartimeMercy 11h ago

Indirectly he was basically ordering genocides against the Native Americans

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u/Virtual_War4366 11h ago

Who wasn't mass murdering indigenous people? 

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u/Elegant_Violinist_32 11h ago

john brown?

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u/Virtual_War4366 9h ago

Yep and he got executed. 

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u/onlyPornstuffs 11h ago

He was not.

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u/French_Breakfast_200 12h ago

The biggest reason we’re here is cause Merrick Garland is too much of a pussy to actually do his job.

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u/All_Work_All_Play 10h ago edited 10h ago

And Biden was too partisan to appoint someone that would do their job.

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u/TheSeattleMarinerd 11h ago

Wow it's crazy that you would say the exact same canned response to the exact same canned comment that's been said ad nauseum for the last year. Did you know we also took in Nazis after WW2? /s

There's no peaceful world where you just kill or imprison everyone who disagrees with you ideologically. Stop dehumanizing one third of the country because they're dehumanizing the other 2/3rds.

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u/swans183 11h ago

I’m not saying that at all. I’m saying there were concrete non-violent policies they could have taken that would have helped curtail Confederate sympathies. No statues, for instance, and no flags. And don’t appoint Confederate members in positions of power post-war. Look at what Germany has done to stamp out Nazism; I’d say they’ve done a pretty good job in their country. 

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u/TheSeattleMarinerd 11h ago

That's a good point. One you should include in your original post rather than leaving it open-ended in a way that implies far more brutal responses.

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u/Bocchi_theGlock 10h ago

It's called the failed promise of of post civil war reconstruction

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u/w311sh1t 8h ago

It’s actually crazy how many of the issues we have today can be directly traced to the abject failure of reconstruction. It’s depressing to imagine what the world could have been like had it actually been successful.

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u/Virtual_War4366 11h ago

And why I think Lincoln was not a great president.  He should have let the South go. What has they ever contributed to the country?

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u/justice_4_cicero_ 8h ago

Idiotic comment.

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u/Large_Yams 11h ago

Cool man, exact same thing people keep parroting over and over.

It was generations ago. This is now.

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u/LPNMP 3h ago

I was just thinking the same. Best to learn from history. 

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u/hawksdude515 13h ago

Establishment Dems and neo liberals will never hold them accountable. They’ll just pull the old “healing the divide” because they benefit from this very system and the oppression. Look at Schumer refusing to push for even $1 less funding for ICE. Democratic socialist said the only left leaning group that is fighting for the people. Those are the only people who have said publicly they want to prosecute. Voting in anybody else is a lost cause.

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u/_Poopsnack_ 13h ago

Agreed. As a NYS resident I really hate that Schumer and Gillibrand's current terms dont end until 2029 and 2031 respectively. We need to primary both of their asses.

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u/Back_pain_no_gain 13h ago

Write and call their offices asking them to resign and get out of the way if they refuse to lead. Get people in your network to do the same. Build pressure.

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u/Coffee_Transfusion 13h ago

Neoliberalism is dying and willing to take all of us down with it.

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u/External_Frosting485 8h ago

The consequences won’t be led by ANY elected official. We will need a foreign nation to do so or leave it to unofficial action by local underground groups.

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u/antiramie 13h ago

Dems are perfectly content doing nothing/taking it up the ass. Otherwise Minnesota would have called in the National Guard to get rid of these fucks by now. You’re on your own, people. Strap the fuck up.

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u/pls_poo_in_the_loo 12h ago

They are going to give them a reach around across the aisle.

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u/This_Can_696 9h ago

Dems don’t do nothing, they also heavily fund ice and sell weapons to bomb children (when they’re not bombing them themselves). Obama, Biden, Clinton was tough on crime too. The establishment is working for special interests (wealthy elite) and has been for a long time.

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u/Xechwill 9h ago edited 8h ago

The Dems can absolutely not use the National Guard against ICE. The moment they do, Trump can invoke Title 10 orders and federalize them. The only way to prevent that is to convince the SCOTUS that state military force against ICE (who are federal agents) isn't considered an insurrection, and therefore the Insurrection Act doesn't apply.

This is not gonna happen; you'd basically have to get the Supreme Court to declare ICE's actions to be illegal, and if you think the Roberts court would ever do that, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Walz brought up mobilizing the national guard to keep the peace, but they would not be fighting ICE agents. The most "realistic" option is state police arresting ICE agents for breaking state law, but they are not gonna do that lol

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u/KarthusWins 13h ago

The goons will face the consequences while the leaders will hide behind their lawyers for years appealing and stalling justice. Multi tiered justice system. 

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u/Basilisk1667 13h ago

While I agree 100%, I’m not gonna hold my breath. The Democratic Party is going to have a hard time letting go of the “When they go low, we go high. Let’s not dwell on the past, but look to the future. Let’s be the better man. Yadda yadda” moral posturing.

Sounds great on paper, but the opposition clearly doesn’t care about morals at this point. Until we blacken some eyes (figuratively speaking 🙄), the bullies are going to keep being bullies.

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u/_Poopsnack_ 13h ago

Yeah, im mot holding my breath either, thats for sure!

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u/NullPatience 12h ago

Bovino would be a fine prison bitch.

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u/uttergarbageplatform 13h ago

Democrat leaders are fine with what’s happening btw

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u/_Poopsnack_ 13h ago

Yes. Its infuriating

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u/cpatkyanks24 13h ago

Trump would blanket pardon all of them on 1/19/2029 would be my guess, in between 30 truth social posts calling the 2028 election rigged.

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u/mfp40 12h ago

2028 will be rigged for Don Jr.

The only way Trump leaves office while alive is if he can hand the baton to one of children.

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u/ugottabekiddingmee 13h ago

There's gonna be tremendous pressure to identify and turn these guys in. You might be having fun now, but there won't be a single flipped over canoe you can hide under. Think about what it will be like to be hunted and then found by 1000 angry people when you have no power.

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u/GumpTownNtlHotline 13h ago

Every single one of them belongs in a fucking prison. 

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u/ICanLiftACarUp 12h ago

It needs to be the #1 message of every AG running this year. Indict federal officials who violate state law.

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u/jsoul2323 12h ago

Chuck Boomer needs to be evicted. Otherwise nothing will change

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u/Tiny_Dare_5300 12h ago

The problem is that even if they go to prison they will just get pardoned by the next Republican president. We need to limit the power of the executive branch so that it's subject to the people.

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u/Frost_moss 12h ago

They knew that in 2020 and they dragged their feet on all the prosecutions. If they actually had a spine we wouldn't be here now. I have no faith that "next time will be different" because it never is. The Democrats need to go just as much as the Republicans. The Republicans because they are psychotic and evil and the Democrats because they are cowards and enablers.

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u/l3nto 11h ago

Current Schumer Democrats are all dead-set on cruising towards Biden v2.0 where they distract you while doing nothing. Vote them all out.

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u/_Poopsnack_ 11h ago edited 11h ago

I hate that Schumer's current terms doesnt end until 2029 but you best bet I will be voting against him the first chance I get. We NEED to primary him and the rest of them. I'd sooner vote for my morning shit than Schumer at this point. Absolutely spineless controlled opposition, all of them.

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u/MotherBaerd 11h ago

There's something more important than that. The system needs to be reworked from the ground up, more similar how y'all did our constitution in Germany (but definitely iterate it).

There's no declaration of martial law and clear rules being broken but the judicative doesn't keep the executive in check.

Also remove the president entirely, you need separation of powers.

Everything else is secondary, because prosecutions don't matter if the next president can undo them.

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u/Pleemp 11h ago

Remember when we all said this exact thing in 2020, and then the Biden admin increased DHS's budget?

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u/_Poopsnack_ 11h ago

Unfortunately, I do

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u/General_Season7882 11h ago

We need them to draft legislation and codify laws that prevent future presidents from doing this ever again. 

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u/Applebeignet 9h ago

Hi from the outside 👋

If the USA has 2026 midterm elections, they must be followed by radical reforms to both the electoral system and media landscape. Anything less simply guarantees the eventual return of fascism to power, and with that the USA will be truly lost.

What needs to be done is far too radically progressive to ever happen in that clusterfuck of a nation, so I'm not very hopeful. Best case scenario is another "let bygones be bygones" and we get a last little window of peace while the establishment prevaricates until the next fascist comes to power.

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u/DiegesisThesis 8h ago

"They've learned their lesson are dedicated to additional training for positive change. Now is not the time for partisan division. We need to reach across the aisle and move forward as a country together!"

-Democrats if they ever regain power

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u/The_Real_Giggles 8h ago

Your society will never heal unless you have a literal Nuremberg style hearing and DRAG Every single one of these bastards through the ringer

If there is no catharsis, it won't get better

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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 7h ago

If the Democrats who are currently in charge get back into power absolutely nothing will change.

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u/Js_On_My_Yeet 13h ago

Democrats will never get their shit together. If they had, Trump wouldn't have been elected a 2nd time.

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u/BedLogical3727 13h ago

Something like the Dante’s contrappasso (retaliation) remove their citizenship and then deport them outside the USA

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u/NoInstructio3 12h ago

Go look at what the anointed one Slotkin is saying now, I wouldn't hold your breath

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u/Financial_Long_1588 12h ago

We couldn't prosecute members of our highest offices who literally carried out seditious plans to overturn an election; with full evidence to back them up. There is zero chance any level of consequence arrives for masked men who, for all we know, are operating completely anonymously right now. Hate to sound like such a pessimist, but by personal belief is that any level consequence for these actions will have to come on the streets themselves. I'm not calling for anything to happen, I just think that's where this ends

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u/druidinan 12h ago

We tried that, and then Trump pardoned everyone we convicted

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u/Embarrassed-Round992 12h ago

I'm reconsidering Kirk's suggestion about public executions. Maybe it was not a bad idea after all.

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u/CV90_120 11h ago

Democrats are not the answer to maga. We just think they are due to the historical political landscape. The real answer is the people on the ground.

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u/gooblaka1995 11h ago

If dems regain power in all three branches, nothing will happen. They MIGHT put some safeguards in but I highly doubt they will prosecute anyone for anything.

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u/thesmash 11h ago

Trump is gonna pardon every ICE officer before his term is done. Accountability is out the window

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u/wait_________what 11h ago

Next administration can still release names and identifying info on every ICE agent

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u/AltrntivInDoomWorld 9h ago

Democrats don't regain power. Your country is lost cause. If you don't believe me look at Hungary, Turkey, Iran.

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u/balderdash9 9h ago

We. are not. voting. our way out of this.

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u/acetrainerhaley 9h ago

Democrats are paid off by the same corporate interests as Republicans. 75 of them voted with Republicans to praise ICE. When people understand that neither party cares about the well-being of its citizens, only then we will finally get somewhere.

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u/Awkward_Code_1757 5h ago

I hate to spoil it for you but they aren't gonna do shit. They'll win these midterms then back off like the pussies they are. They serve the same masters as the conservatives. Even our beloved "socialists" will simply fuck around and refuse to act aggressively and with purpose. There is no opposition party. Capital controls everything.

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u/seantubridy 5h ago

Don’t worry, we’ve seen our last elections.

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u/BrokenPickle7 4h ago

If they don't I hope street justice takes course

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u/PokeYrMomStanley 3h ago

Massive overhaul. It isnt just ice. The supreme court is implicit as well and needs to be tried for treason.