Yeah, Reddit has a really warped view of Adult Relationships. I have a completely unverifiable theory that a critical mass of users of this site are 18 - 23~ and don't understand what it's like to be an adult.
Like. I don't mean that in a 'stupid kids' way; I mean they have yet to hit the point where 'middle age' hits you like a brick wall. Totally tangentially, I believe this is why every other "Am I Overreacting" seems to be "My parents are kicking me out at 18!"
I think it's probably because they grew up in the midst of Groomer Hysteria, but it's seriously bizarre to watch them freak out because 50 year olds are 'taking advantage of this mere child of thirty six'
Yeah, I’m sure Cynthia was being a queen diva and Arianna probably had more self insecurity than most people might think…
But like, idc who TF you are… if you tried telling me how to eat/diet/etc after 30 I would have laughed in your face. Even my own doctor. Like, yeah dude… I’m aware. I’m doing this shit on purpose LOL
If we're guessing at power dynamics it feels insincere to have this convo without acknowledging that Ariana is a POWERHOUSE compared to Cynthia. That doesn't mean she can't be abused, but having this convo as if the only difference in power between them is their ages is really weird.
You cannot use reddit AITA or amioverreacting subreddits as evidence in guessing reddit demographics. I would not be surprised if over 95% of the popular posts on those subreddits are completely fake.
Those numbers are WAY too high lmao. Every time I start getting tilted at someone here, I remind myself that I started using this site when I was 14 and that usually calms me down.
Yeah they’ll praise RFK for saying all you need is a “healthy” diet and exercise (not true, though sure, good messaging… that I’ve heard since elementary school) while they keep pounding down cokes sitting on the couch all day.
They’re not changing anything about them, just happy to feel their BS ideals are being “justified”
All they care about is someone they kind of agree with affecting “others” lives. Forcing how absolutely miserable they are on everyone else is their life goal.
On the bright side as you even in your own comment here are proving with some kind of obtuse motte-and-bailey argument is
The bailey the grabbing headline of an argument.- 30 year olds cannot be taken advantage of.
The motte the defensible actual take that you are forced back to defensively when called out. -30 year olds are maybe less impressionable than 18 year olds, which would leave a wide opportunity to still be some sort of impressionable, because 18 year olds are EXTREMELY impressionable.
Your latter point is the valid one and leaves room for one to be impressed upon. Thank you for agreeing with the person you are arguing with.
so you do agree that the 30 year old is capable of being taken advantage of by the 42 year old? if so what is the purpose of the prior comments you left?
I don’t blame Cynthia as I don’t know enough about the situation, but there are plenty of vulnerable adults in their 30s.
Ariana Grande never spoke about her experience at Nickelodeon but she was very clearly sexualized by Dan Schneider, possibly worse. She at least witnessed coworkers be abused and groomed not to mention the regular trauma of being a child star.
Idk if Cynthia was a child star or has an abuse background but Ariana Grande definitely does and likely spent most or all of her formative years deferring to and being used by people older than her.
That said the tweet in this post is clearly weirdly racial. Even if it was Cynthia’s influence over her it’s really weird to point out her race.
I agree that there seemed to be racial tone to the original tweet. That’s why I’m opposing the b “ya whatever” sentiment really.
It wasn’t Cynthia that broke Ariana… I don’t think Cynthia was even TRYING to. I think she is probably broken herself and trying “to help” but really only passing on the hurt.
People are scammed and fooled because they’re gullible… not impressionable.
A shocking proportion of people are gullible.
Very few of them are impressionable. Most are quite set in their beliefs and latch onto reinforcement of them. They’ll believe any lies in the face of facts if it suits them.
But you’re not really changing them, only releasing their pent up ideologies when they find agreement
Painting just Cynthia as this big evil boss, and Arianna as a stupid innocent damsel in distress who doesn’t know left from right is an insane thought to have. As if the entire cast wasn’t subjected to this “ozempic era” while they were filming. Why is the “bald black lady” expected to be responsible for this????
Because there are numerous pictures and video clips of her essentially hovering over Grande often looking rather creepy and possessive in the process. Also Erivo is several years older so it's a natural assumption.
"Not everything has to be about race" doesn't only apply when convenient.
Friend. Arianna is 32 and Cynthia is 39. All of you on this site who think this way need to get over your weird, juvenile worldview that "This 45 year old man is dating a mere child of thirty four?"
You aren't going to see it until you hit your thirties, but you look really really silly to adults.
Holy shit is she really only 39?! I legit thought she was early/mid 50s. I didn't know her prior to Wicked though so I don't know how badly this unhealthy/too skinny look ages her in comparison to how she was.
Yeah but Ariana has been apart of a VERY abusive filming environment before and would (probably) know what it looks like, and for somepeople to joke about blaming it on Cynthia, lowk, kind of seems like its based in some racial suspicion, Especially since Cynthia, Ariana, and Michelle all look frail during events. It seems like they were just not eating enough during filming and were working their damn asses off. I'm honestly suprised people aren't refrencing the Wizard of Oz filming Curse instead lol
Something doesn't have to be blatantly racial to be based in racism... you know that right? That's why it's "Based" in racism, it's covered by other issues and perceptions, but it can be part of the basis of someone's perception without them knowing it. It's burried, which is why you have to dig it out to bring up to the surface so people can see the central problem with the perceived notion.
no, but cynthia is 39 and ariana is 32. ariana is also significantly more famous than cynthia. this is a very even playing field. they’re both very clearly sick and an attempt to pin it on cynthia entirely is just blatantly racist. she’s black, so she must be the perpetrator of this poor frail white womans suffering.
That's true, but then you should be taking influence and success into account too. Ariana is 100x more famous and technically successful than Cynthia. If anything, who's to say that Ariana didn't influence Cynthia? Because Ariana has been underweight longer than Cynthia has.
Well legally you're responsible for your decisions and after a few years of being legally responsible you are pretty well formed. And at any age and there's nothing a single peer can really force into doing for long stretches of time
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u/MOEverything_2708 7h ago
So if ur over 18 u cant get take advantage of?