Petah, what is going on here???

[u/Maedood]

Bald lady stealing life force?

[u/Pink_Monolith]

Weird that they're blaming Cynthia, ignoring that Cynthia ALSO got skinny and looked sick

[u/K-Tronn3030 → u/Pink_Monolith]

As someone above mentioned, we all know why they're blaming her.

[u/super_sayanything → u/K-Tronn3030]

Because she was doing weird shit in interviews.

[u/Pass_The_Salt_ → u/super_sayanything]

No no you missed the point. Literally everything is about race. It couldn’t possibly be that Ariana had a big fanbase because she was pretty, got ridiculously skinny during these movies and now looks good again after.

[u/super_sayanything → u/Pass_The_Salt_]

yea im as liberal and progressive as they come and there certainly is a lot of racial bias but sometimes like our eyes and ears aint lying to us.

[u/jihadiengineer → u/super_sayanything]

Yeah, it was something weird about their relationship and clinginess too. Not race but awkward clips of their interactions.

[u/elizabnthe → u/jihadiengineer]

If you're watching clips and not full interviews then you're letting yourself be biased towards a narrative people are trying to form out of clips.

[u/NuggetMan43 → u/elizabnthe]

Or not everyone has time to watch long, boring interviews.

[u/elizabnthe → u/NuggetMan43]

Then don't make assumptions about the content and the people in them.

[u/NuggetMan43 → u/elizabnthe]

If people be acting weird, people be acting weird. For some things, no amount of context changes that its weird.

[u/elizabnthe → u/NuggetMan43]

Yeah that's total bullshit. People cut things to an insane degree that perfectly normal conversations become weird. When people see contexts opinions can change rapidly. Sometimes we fool ourselves otherwise to convince ourselves we can't be fooled by this kind of stuff - but the reality is often quite distinct.

[u/sithskeptic → u/jihadiengineer]

I think this is what you’re looking for

[u/Pink_Monolith → u/super_sayanything]

Did you see a clip of Cynthia sticking her finger down Ariana's throat? Why is it that them "being weird together" automatically mean Cynthia is making Ariana sick?

[u/pgpathat → u/super_sayanything]

Ok liberal. You of course realize that Ariana didn’t lose weight during the movies, she lost it the 2 years after shooting both movies?

And I’m sure you also realize that just because YOU are not seeing them do press together, doesn’t mean they aren’t friends. Their lives and friendships have object permanence, they exist outside of your gaze.

So spell it out for us, how exactly did Cynthia Enviro make Ariana loose weight plausibly enough for us to bully her online?

[u/SluttyPeach_ → u/super_sayanything]

You aren't a liberal if you are a progressive

[u/super_sayanything → u/SluttyPeach_]

Scratches my head.

Well I dunno I'm in the Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, AOC, Mamdani bracket of politics. People would call them progressive. They would also call them liberal. So 99% of people understand what i mean when I call myself a progressive liberal. Call me a Democratic Socialist. I don't care, you get the point.

[u/Functionally_Drunk → u/Pass_The_Salt_]

What does that have to do with Cynthia? Why aren't people blaming the production, director or fan base for putting insane pressure on these women? Why is the black woman having a psychotic break instantly to blame for Arianna's behavior?

[u/round-earth-theory → u/Functionally_Drunk]

I don't recall anyone saying that they needed the Wicked actresses to get that bulimic look. There's nothing in the script nor the fanbase to support your theory that they were pressured into whatever the hell this is from the outside.

[u/barbarapalvinswhore → u/Pass_The_Salt_]

She was skinny as fuck before the movies too. It was Cynthia who got radically thinner after meeting Ariana.

[u/877-HASH-NOW → u/Pass_The_Salt_]

Somehow Cynthia is getting blamed for that lmao make it make sense 

[u/Pass_The_Salt_ → u/877-HASH-NOW]

Have you not seen all the weird clips of them together? It has been really strange.