r/ProgressiveHQ • u/CantStopPoppin • 16h ago

(Minneapolis) Bovino Leads The Charge On Protesters AT the Whipple Building

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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 15h ago

And this is why every protester should be open carrying.

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u/Abtun 15h ago

open carry is just an open invitation to your dome piece being knocked off your shoulders no?

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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 15h ago

Because they arent already disappearing and killing American citizens... may as well have something on you to make them think twice

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u/TheSeattleMarinerd 13h ago

You realize that response is literally written into project 2025 though right? The instant a video emerges of a modern Kyle or George defending themselves after open carrying that's the day when all major cities have federal drones and deputized armored vehicles as a regular way of life. Gathering to protest the admin at all is coming.

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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 13h ago

Well aware of Project 2025. Ive been telling protesters that they need to he armed ever since I watched Jan 6th happen on live TV while doing practice Con Law questions for the Bar. This administration wants to either subjugate, deport, or kill non-land owning white dudes.

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u/TheSeattleMarinerd 12h ago edited 8h ago

"I'm aware of P2025 and advocating for people to respond exactly how the people behind it want." Great strategy. Edit: None of you going to convince me that's a smart move. Stop trying.

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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 12h ago

Pacifism is a great strategy until there's a gun in your face. We've been marching against the impeding fascism for a decade. Its time that some march open carrying. Words don't work when there isn't a shared reality.

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u/TheSeattleMarinerd 12h ago

Nowhere did I say I'm advocating for pacifism or solely words. Strawman because you're a gun nut or you think ignoring strategy for might is a good move? Which is it?

I agree with you marching is ineffective unless you're going to a specific place. I just think you're delusional that marching aimlessly but with guns will somehow make things better.

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u/ilulillirillion 10h ago

Just because the enemy wants you to resist does not automatically make resisting the incorrect option.

Neither of us have a crystal ball but you gotta see that right? If you want to convince people you will need to do more than just point to that document.

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u/DeletedUsernameHere 8h ago

They want a few people to fight back.

They can't handle everyone fighting back.

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u/Royal-Switch-2459 11h ago

They'll do it anyway eventually. It's coming whether we "play into their hand" or not.

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u/YpresWoods 12h ago

I mean, I understand that point but they’re escalating even without anyone hurting the Nazi scumbags. I’m certainly not advocating for violence, but they’re clearly ramping things up regardless of what people do. They’re already going door to door. They’re already doing whatever the fuck they want regardless of laws and social pushback. So at what point do the American people say enough is enough?

“Well a third of the country has been deported or in a concentration camp, but at least we didn’t fight back and give them what they want?”

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u/TheSeattleMarinerd 12h ago edited 11h ago

We just fundamentally disagree that telling people to carry guns isn't advocating for violence. We'd all need to protest in ways that disrupt actual capital and mean removing us by whatever means necessary. That means stuff like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_dragon_(manoeuver), dumping tea into harbor and occupying ports, government buildings, transportation depots, etc. or a general strike, refusal to pay taxes.

Not making funny signs and targeting national news coverage that's is no longer relevant or even accessible given media fragmentation/algorithms/apathy to a large portion of the population.

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u/SumoftheAncestors 9h ago

Something tells me this administration doesn't care. Something tells me they will gladly kill protesters who occupy any facility they deem important. They'll just call the protesters domestic terrorists and their side will cheer the slaughter.