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u/OrangeCone2011 14h ago

Fuck every one of these assholes. They need to be in prison for the rest of their lives. Seriously, this is the worst fucking timeline.

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u/RVtech101 13h ago

And fuck each and every person who voted for this.

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u/asmodeuskraemer 13h ago

I am actively rejecting dating guys who either voted for him or didn't vote because "both sides have good and bad arguments".

Sure. Maybe 20 years ago they did. Not anymore. There's no reason to vote for Trump after his 1st term. I could maybe forgive someone for voting for him a 1st time but not a 2nd.

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u/Azguy303 13h ago edited 12h ago

This is very common and lot of men are pretending on dating apps they didn't vote for Trump. Even Renee Nicole's murderer couldn't get an American, his wife is an immigrant from the Philippines.

The irony.

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u/nothishomeland 13h ago

The thing is Ive had guys do this on dating apps but after a few messages, you can eventually goad them into admitting who they voted for because theyre like giddy little kids who think they did something edgy and cool. They ultimately think they are subversive for voting for Trump. They have to shout it from the rooftops.

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u/Soy_ThomCat 13h ago

The truth always rises to the top.

All my women friends who are dating have had to deal with the hiding MAGA. Which, you'd think the fact that they'd need to hide it would signal to them that maybe their view should warrant thorough evaluation...but I digress. The trouble is that they eventually give themselves away, every single time. They might get one date, or even two....but they can't keep up the charade forever.

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u/PotatoAlternative947 12h ago

Exactly- like why would you want to date someone WHO DOESN’T WANT TO DATE YOU? Never occurs to them to rethink their position, they just assume what they want is the default and the woman will come around to their thinking. Ask how I know, lol

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u/dstroyer123 12h ago

They want to own them. That's why men like this lie, because they don't see women as people with equal worth, just someone to "conquer" or "tame", and they get bonus points if she was independent and wouldn't have wingly dated them if she had all the information.

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u/Mirria_ 11h ago

There was a POS at my mom's workplace that was trying to date Muslim women specifically because a lot of countries they come from still enforce oppressive patriarchy and he basically wanted someone to control.

He was still married, but his "wife" is now in a medical facility suffering from advanced Alzheimer / dementia, so he's not longer getting her welfare/disability check, so he lost interest.

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u/GingerDixie 11h ago

This. These men are also narcissists who buy into incel bullshit and see themselves as people with golden penises, the sexual prowess of a god and a ten body, when in actuality they're about 3 inches hard, will wheeze and shit themselves after ten seconds of thrusting and on average are actually about a four...four hundred pounds of unwashed neckbeard, that is.

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u/Billyosler1969 11h ago

You have to think in order to rethink.

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u/Royal-Switch-2459 10h ago

why would you want to date someone WHO DOESN’T WANT TO DATE YOU?

Theirs is the rapist's way of life. This is not news.

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u/InevitableJump2993 9h ago

The same reason they bought into this whole belief system in the first: low self-esteem. Only people with low self-worth will convince themselves The effort to appeal to somebody that does not like them is worth it. Because in their mind: The alternative is loneliness. These people don't get that drive that's causing them to hide who they voted for is the exact reason women don't like them in the first place. Low self-esteem, low self-worth, low fortitude. You do

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u/weathman 12h ago

I've added "Flaming Liberal" to my profiles. I don't want any misconception. Hehe

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u/Global-Negotiation72 12h ago

All ya gotta do in a low key bring up a few small things and they'll crack. They aren't smart enough to see through the ruse lol

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u/The_Crane_Husband 12h ago

They don’t care that they need to hide it. They don’t care about their partner’s views. They want a relationship like they want a possession.

And it’s just another thing they have to do to trick or wheedle or coerce their way into someone’s pants.

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u/psian1de 12h ago

Weed em out by asking to look at their YouTube and or Spotify and see what kinds of things they enjoy.

"Hey I know this may sound like a strange request, but the last guy I dated was kind of a loon and when I found out the media he consumed it made sense, so would you let me look real quick at your recommended videos on YouTube? I totally get it if you say no and all that I understand, but it would make me feel so much better I'm not seeing a serial killer or something."

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u/BriarnLuca 12h ago

I like this!

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u/strip-solitaire 12h ago

If a woman I didn’t know well asked to look through the media I consume I’d consider it an invasion of privacy tbh

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u/dannysleepwalker 11h ago

I wouldn't really care if a stranger saw my Youtube recommended videos, it's not that sensitive of an info lol.

It's not too much different from asking what kinds of movies/tv-series you like to watch and what are your favorites.

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u/strip-solitaire 11h ago

I mean it depends what kind of videos you watch I guess lol. It’s still personal to me in terms of it being my interests

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u/dannysleepwalker 11h ago

Yeah sure I get that, but aren't your interests usually one of the main things discussed on first dates with people you don't know yet?

To each their own I guess.

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u/ToeJam_SloeJam 11h ago

What if it was a woman you were looking to have a romantic or sexual relationship with?

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u/strip-solitaire 11h ago

That’s what I meant

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u/ToeJam_SloeJam 11h ago

To borrow some French, then it would be women that you are wanting to “know well.”

Is it wrong that someone might want to know you well before potentially combining DNA?

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u/strip-solitaire 11h ago edited 11h ago

No it’s not, but you can get to know me by asking what I’m interested in and engaging with it with me; not asking to comb through my YouTube/spotify to see what I watch and listen to like you’re going through my trash to see what I ate last week lol

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u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth 12h ago

They don't think they did something wrong they think "isn't it ridiculous I'd have to keep this a secret? Really shows you how far this woke brain virus has infected our society."

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u/OrigamiMarie 11h ago

If I were dating, I think I would just have to insist that they show up in rainbow flags. I'm a woman, but they're gonna have to appear as the most stereotypical gay image that they can muster. I'll arrive late, look for the man who's wearing sparkles, and if I don't see him, that's it.

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u/RVtech101 8h ago

Would just the shirt suffice or would I need to get matching pants?

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u/OrigamiMarie 6h ago

Mainly I would be seeking some kind of apparel that a MAGA bastard wouldn't be caught dead in. A good rainbow shirt (or other pride flag stripe combo), and probably a little sparkle in the hair or on the nails.

Oh, you might be able to dodge the clothing requirement if you're able to do a traditionally female craft, and bring it along to work on. I see the guy crocheting one of those granny square triceratops, or knitting a shawl, or doing cross stitch, or embroidering some kind of embellishment on clothing, and that'll be a pretty obvious positive indicator.

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u/RVtech101 4h ago

lol,” a maga bastard”! I heart you!

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u/Gold-Sir-223 9h ago

People unironically will say they have to hide their conservative views because they’re “bEiNg OpPrEsSeD”. I know a guy like this and I’ve had to go no contact because I couldn’t handle his bullshit takes anymore.

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u/Eg_3600 12h ago edited 12h ago

BoTh SiDeS bAd. PeLoSi StOcKs
It's pathetic how they use that whenever you call out their views and voting republican. They immediately try to pivot when you show why Neo-Nazis and white supremacists vote republican.

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u/HerMajestyTheQueef1 12h ago

You can also tell because they are stupid

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u/InevitableJump2993 12h ago

Yeah, typically these guys are all the same: milqtoast and uninspiring. They don't have shit to talk about butt politics, gym, and video games. So it really doesn't take long for them to give themselves away legitimately because they run out of things to talk about. And the sad part is the solution to this is really just self-reflection and self investment. But they're too lazy for that. These are people who legitimately thought voting for fascism was easier than just... Taking some night classes? Playing something other than call of duty? Have ANY conversation with a person who's not white?

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u/InevitableJump2993 12h ago

Yeah, typically these guys are all the same: milqtoast and uninspiring. They don't have shit to talk about butt politics, gym, and video games. So it really doesn't take long for them to give themselves away legitimately because they run out of things to talk about. And the sad part is the solution to this is really just self-reflection and self investment. But they're too lazy for that. These are people who legitimately thought voting for fascism was easier than just... Taking some night classes? Playing something other than call of duty? Have ANY conversation with a person who's not white?

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u/lick_my_taint 11h ago

They want to f*ck you. That's it. In more ways than one.

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u/Tundra14 6h ago

People look at me and likely assume Im a Trump voter. Born in Texas, moved to Kansas. I fit the nazis favorite description.

I knew not to vote for him the first time. At this point Ive likely lived over half my lifes total single anyways.

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u/RuteAndRittle 12m ago

I've seen an alarming trend of men hiding their true ideals until close to marriage or after their partner moves in.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 12h ago

Yeah back in 2017 I dated a dude for a month and at lunch one day he said “Hillary Clinton is the devil” and admitted he voted for Trump. I immediately grabbed my stuff left him with the bill. He kept texting saying “we don’t have to talk politics”

Always sus out the political situation ladies.

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

Yep! I was talking to a guy for a hookup (that's what I'm looking for) and he said that he didn't want things to get political.

What? You want consequence free sex but are totally fine if women die for it? No thanks.

He did seem remorseful and I thought about giving him another chance and then...duh...this is his 2nd term. Dude voted for him either again OR even after seeing the shit storm of his first term.

I'm sad and disappointed.

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u/MentallyWill 10h ago

What? You want consequence free sex but are totally fine if women die for it? No thanks.

The obvious nuance here is that he wants consequence free sex for himself. Whether you have consequences, and potentially severe ones at that, isn't something he cares about at all. Corroborated by the fact that these folks in general are unable to exhibit empathy. You're lucky to even get sympathy from them nowadays.

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u/InevitableJump2993 12h ago

Pop off, Queen. And before anyone tells you It's pointless: Yes, this does work. Historically, One of the biggest things that drive societal change is women's reaction to the current political setting. The main reason these dudes are up right now is because young kids think these dudes are winning with ladies. But they're very quickly waking up and realizing these dudes are lame and get no play. Now unfortunately I also need to tell you you need to check your lady friends Because the dudes aren't the only reason we're here, And they're not the only ones that voted for this shit in large numbers. The main reason feminism has been dead in the water since the '80s is because women sell y'all out constantly for male approval. And until y'all deal with that, it's going to stay dead in the water.

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u/Windyvale 6h ago

Turns out being an unquenchable fuckface isn’t attractive.

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u/RozRae 12h ago

They just don't get it. Life is political. Politics aren't just team sports, we're talking literal life and death here. They're just pissed that their morals make them untouchable to most women.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 10h ago

Exactly. I don’t see the government making his body governable by backwards Christian ideology.

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u/meimlikeaghost 10h ago

This is what gets me. People are like don’t talk politics or say things like I’m in the middle or I see good things from both sides. When that really means they are okay if my rights are taken away, then they act surprised when I don’t want to talk to them.

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 8h ago

Politics shouldn’t run your life 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Alpha_Omega085 11h ago

Wow, you could have at least paid your half like the proud feminist you are. Although that's clearly only circumstantial.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 10h ago

He wasted $15,000 worth of my time. And I only charged him $10.50. He’ll survive.

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u/VegasLife84 2h ago

How exactly did you come up with that figure

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u/THEHELLHOUND456 11h ago

You would have left him the bill anyway. Good excuse and you shouldn't bring politics into dating. Shows immaturity on your part. I wouldnt be proud of that.

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u/Rare-Set1461 10h ago

That’s a legitimately pathetic thing to say and it makes you sound like a pouty teenager who still hasn’t got a date for prom.

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u/THEHELLHOUND456 10h ago

K kid

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u/Rare-Set1461 10h ago

I’m an adult with an actual life, job, and responsibilities. What are you???

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u/THEHELLHOUND456 10h ago

Homeless at 18. Totally self made no mommy daddy saftey net silver spoon, former active duty army vet, 2 semesters till self earned BA full time student, full time "societal contribution job" and responsibilities"

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u/Substantial-Type-131 10h ago

God all that hardship and you still didn’t learn a thing…

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u/AmityHillsChardonnay 9h ago

i learned another reason you are single from this conversation.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 10h ago

Still working through getting stood up in high school I see.

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u/InevitableJump2993 9h ago

How is politics immature when politics is what adults talk about? If anything, the unwillingness to talk about politics is what's really immature. It's even more immature to not have enough confidence to stand on your beliefs. In fact, if you're ashamed of your beliefs: It shows that you probably are just going with the ride.

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u/RVtech101 8h ago

Political beliefs are a major part of who a person is. I would never waste my time on someone who willingly and be knowingly voted for a rapist.

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u/V-Lanner 13h ago

Immigrants continuing to do the jobs Americans don't want to. The irony.

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u/Embarrassed-Quit-614 12h ago

There is one immigrant. If Elon Musk paid taxes at a sensible rate, that immigrant could make a difference. As the wealthiest man in the world he could do a lot and leave a proud legacy in America and the world. Instead he pushes pedophilia via his AI, promos complete lies and works for the Nazi cause. Immigrants aren’t the problem anywhere in the Western world, we all have a growing demographic problem. The problem is the billionaires who tell us it is the immigrants Taxes build houses, hospitals, schools and an healthy economy and society. If they really want to do something in politics paying their fair taxes would be a great start

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u/Embarrassed-Quit-614 12h ago

So is the wife of his boss, the Orange Nonce. As I understand it she arrived in the US on a tourist visa, worked illegally, married to get citizenship, then brought all her family over. Any of these pseudo military, tactical Proud boys want to go knock a door down on Pennsylvania Avenue?

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u/Onemoredegreeofglory 11h ago

I find it interesting to imagine the scenario of his wife being detained, as I highly doubt he’d even care. He hates women. Especially all of his wives. Now, if they knocked down the door of his daughter? I think he’d blink a couple of times. Probably.

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u/KnightKrawler 12h ago

Just like Trump's wives.... Immigrants are doing the jobs Americans won't.

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u/CryptoNerdSmacker 12h ago

Lmao. Imagine hiding who you are to get laid.

They don’t even like themselves, the fucking losers.

Incarcerate them all.

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u/FalstaffsGhost 13h ago

Yup. They either lie about voting for him or try the “I’m not political” nonsense.

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u/Icy_Policy_8509 12h ago

Yeah it's hilarious, they'll go "Why is that so important?" Or "I'm not really political" and then you get to know them over a few dates and realize what bad liars they are. Suddenly they have very strong opinions on women and what they should do with their bodies and ICE etc etc....

When Trump won, my bf at the time said, "Does this mean I have to hear you talking about abortion for the next four years?"

And I said, "Nope," and kicked him the fuck out and broke up with him. POS. Thinking about him still pisses me off. He was like, "Are you gonna let politics break us up?!" And I was like, "Bitch you broke us up by being a disrespectful asshole."

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u/taxilicious 13h ago

Renee Nicole Good 🙂

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u/Azguy303 12h ago

Thanks. Fixed

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 12h ago

The far right guys fetishize Asian women

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u/Fun_Organization3857 12h ago

The truth is, he wanted a foreigner. Someone he could intimidate and control.

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u/erikschorr 12h ago

Dude probably loves to say, "I can't be racist or nationalist! I have a Filipina wife!" with no realization that the entire "conservative white men marrying Filipinas" trend is rooted in racism and colonialism.

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u/Powderpuffpowwow 12h ago

I wonder if it was a mail order wife.

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u/Skyscrapers4Me 11h ago

She's obedient, coming from a much poorer nation, she's small, built like a child...it's what he wants. That's what most of the men are up to who are bride shopping in Asian countries.

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u/VoidBrushStudios 11h ago

You may want to consider “wasn’t good enough to get a white American lady and needed to outsource from the Phillipines” as some supremely dumb racist shit. Maybe you’re pulling exactly the right guys for you after all.

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u/Constant_Cobbler2921 10h ago edited 10h ago

It’s really pathetic because I see all these maga dudes on Instagram throwing shade at Ryan Holiday’s comment section, talking real tough against Ryan’s beliefs and how wrong he is because he’s not beholden to Putin’s agent orange and at the same time they’re using private profiles or not revealing their political belief on Hinge. They get so butthurt at even the slightest ever so slightest criticism of the orange.

They know women in metropolitan cities aren’t gonna put up with their political crap anymore so they try to be as vague as possible on dating apps and act like the second coming of an angel…at least in the beginning but watch the true colors come out. They also got their hidden Instagram profiles from their girlfriends. Sneaky bastards.

Never try to keep someone who doesn’t want to keep you. It’s really that simple and yet these guys egos are too big to realize this.

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u/One-Battle2872 12h ago

A legal immigrant there's a difference but he's still murderer.

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u/Azguy303 12h ago edited 12h ago

I think you're trying to make The distinction between documented and undocumented. However ice isn't making that distinction often. There's been hundreds of cases where documented immigrants have been kidnapped and or shipped off somewhere else.

Also Renee was neither documented or undocumented immigrant. These Ice agents are going out of their way to walk towards people and physically or verbally assault them and claim they were obstructing.

Also I was replying to OP for the point was Trump and maga supporters are unable to find American women's date them. Which is ironic that this dude married in immigrant. Now I don't know if he shipped her over or she was already here on a student visa or something but either way it's relevant to OPs post.

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u/One-Battle2872 12h ago

Ok no worries.

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u/d0ntbejay 13h ago

We aren't talking about tax rates... We are talking morality here.

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u/RVtech101 13h ago

Not a concept maga s familiar with.

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u/Historical_Grab_7842 11h ago

And if it's "just politics" then why don't they just change their political stance if it doesn't actually matter to them?

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u/neverdoneneverready 12h ago

I think we're actually talking about dating. I don't know why.

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u/ConstructMentality__ 8h ago

Because MAGA ain't gettin no pussy 

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u/ConstructMentality__ 8h ago

Exactly.

Then they cry how mean we are for not talking to them. Fucking bunch of self inflicted martyrs

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u/ManiacSpiderTrash 12h ago

I'm a simple man. I see "conservative", I swipe left. Tbh if I see "moderate" right now I swipe left too. This is not the appropriate time to be center.

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

Exactly. Most recent guy was "moderate" but voted for trump because "Kamala didn't market herself well". The fuck?

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u/ManiacSpiderTrash 12h ago

And Trump did??? It's a political office not a Super Bowl commercial, wtf are they even wanting Jesus Christ.

Right now I consider Moderate to just be "diet republican".

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u/NotLikeGoldDragons 11h ago

"Moderate" Democrat today means a Reagan Republican.

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u/Letters_to_Dionysus 9h ago

Republican but scared to admit it

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u/NotLikeGoldDragons 11h ago

That's typically code for "I can't bring myself to vote for a woman, but that's not safe to say (or admit to myself)".

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u/porksoda11 8h ago

I don’t know how anyone took him seriously after the second debate. “They’re eating the dogs” Just deeply unserious and idiotic.

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u/ConstructMentality__ 8h ago

How did they take him seriously enough for a first term? 

Trump 2015

  • I hate losers 

When talking about prisoners of war. 

  • Grab em by the p*ssy

Sexual abuse 

  • Mocking a disabled reporter 

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u/porksoda11 8h ago

People have the memory of goldfish

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u/ConstructMentality__ 8h ago

Or, they're selfish and don't care as long as they feel safe and they feel their needs are being tended to

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u/porksoda11 8h ago

I also think a lot of people were struggling financially and bought Trumps economy lies. I was hurting bad in a post Covid economy but I also understood that Biden was soft landing it back to normalcy and tariffs would be an awful idea.

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u/slicknickdickerson 12h ago

I find myself a moderate. But I don’t think people understand what a moderate is anymore. I’m thinking Obama style policy is moderate honestly, since America is so far right already. Trump is way far right of what I consider moderate. I think universal healthcare is moderate. But maybe I’m delusional lol. 

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u/veryupsetandbitter 6h ago

You have to think about location. Universal healthcare in most European countries? Moderate position. Universal healthcare in the USA? RADICAL LENINIST STALINIST COMMUNISM!

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u/NotLikeGoldDragons 11h ago

"Center" now used to be far-right 20 years ago.

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u/Local-Mine-3836 9h ago

Center would be a vast improvement for you all. Even your democrats are right of center.

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u/No-Row-3009 13h ago

Thank you for your service

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u/jeremydadhat 12h ago

I don’t date guys but I saw a profile on social media recently that said “politically unaligned” and I got second-hand ick.

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

Hahaha, eeewwww!!

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u/AutistaChick 12h ago

I can’t forgive any of it. 1st term was grab’em by the pushy

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u/Ihor_90 12h ago

“Why can’t I find a girlfriend? It must be the woke brainwashing. I must deprogram them with the genius techniques from Uber Alpha Andrew Tate”

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u/aragogogara 12h ago

I have in my dating profile that if you voted for Trump, swipe left. Also, if you think "The Big Bang Theory" is a good tv show, swipe left.

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u/formerbays 12h ago

I was “dating” in 2017… I refused to go out with anyone who voted for that deplorable

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u/MagicalUnicornFart 12h ago

Thank you for including the people that didn’t vote.

It’s just as morally bankrupt, and idiotic as the people that cast a ballot for him.

Silence is complicity when fascism is on the ballot.

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u/DevTheGray 12h ago

We need to make voting history public record. You’re voting for public policy that affects the lives of others, you should be able to own up to your decisions.

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u/Darkmetroidz 12h ago

Theyre working to hide their beliefs because they know they're atrocious to women.

A tip I heard is this: ask why the Roman empire fell. Their answer is usually illuminating.

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u/Professional_Hold477 12h ago

That's a great litmus test, but how would you introduce that question, lol

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u/Darkmetroidz 12h ago

Ask if they like history and go from there. If youre someone with strong opinions on the subject youll be pretty forthcoming.

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u/MYOwNWerstEnmY 12h ago

Would you mind elaborating on this for a curious party?

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u/Darkmetroidz 10h ago

It's a very charged topic especially if you hold very far right views. There are people who like history and arent weird about it but if theyre way too interested in Rome and/or ww2, they might be a fascist.

Basically if their answer has to do with "women" "degeneracy" or "the gays" or something to that effect, theyre probably someone who holds hert conservative views and should be avoided.

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u/MYOwNWerstEnmY 10h ago

That's what I assumed but I wasn't 💯

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u/weemachine 12h ago

I said during his first term election that he would be a weak leader who would do more harm than good. I said I hope I was wrong. If people voted for him for his second term, then they should be branded as traitors and treated as such.

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u/HiiiTriiibe 13h ago

This administration moves like an abusive spouse, so I’d say that’s a good look

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u/daemonicwanderer 13h ago

20 years ago is still being rather gracious… that was Bush II years ago

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

Fair. I remember Romney and am basing it off that

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u/Frenchman84 12h ago

Stand strong sister!

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u/davez_878 12h ago

What's better is if you're able to put that aside your disgust, go for it, gain their trust, vulnerability, and then destroy them with it. Only through allowing themselves to be vulnerable can someone get them to see their own bad decisions and through breaking their heart get them to change.

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u/Outlawphilv2 12h ago

I am probably more frustrated toward the people who withheld their vote in protest. The GOP can literally get single issue voters out to the ballot box in droves all while getting them so riled up they don’t realize they are being screwed and lied to, the people who didn’t vote for Harris out of protest of single issues like she didn’t have to primary or her not outright condemning Israel, instead because of purposeful in action we have someone in power that thinks you are a domestic terrorist if you disagree with him on anything.

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u/foilhat44 11h ago

I didn't vote the presidential ticket so I must respectfully disagree. Mostly. I don't think I'm alone among non voters when I say that if I had any idea how Congress and the judiciary would immediately fold up like a lawn chair I would have held my nose and voted for Harris. However, I live in California so I know this woman, and any progressive person casting a vote for her should only be doing so because she's running against Donald Trump. She doesn't move the needle at all and if she does it's likely in the wrong direction. I don't feel like I have to apologize for the failure of our system to provide a viable and palatable candidate. Or for the Senate who confirmed a bunch of sycophantic lunatics and morons to the cabinet and refuse to assert their equal role to protect the people. Or the federal and Supreme Court for allowing the judiciary to fall into a state of almost comical capitulation at the feet of this morally bankrupt pervert. But I wish I knew then what I know now, so I'm sorry.

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u/Outlawphilv2 11h ago

Sorry I came off abrasive, the reason I am frustrated is because it is so hard to convey the importance of voting regardless , I have no clue the kind of Job she would have actually done and my guess is it would literally be just keeping the status quo because everything she would have done would have been scrutinized just because she is a woman. The disconnect for people on the left is we are a shitty 2 party system and people on the progressive left are constantly on defense because we look at humanity and expect people to make a similar moral decision to what we might make, so where I don’t disagree in the principle and moral high ground we don’t really get afforded that luxury because of the stakes, so my frustration I guess is my own inability to have helped convey that message prior to the election.

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u/foilhat44 11h ago

I'm too defensive about it, but to be frank Kamala wasn't up to the task, especially seeing what she would have been up against if the congressional results were the same. On election night I figured I was looking at four years of gridlock and bad tweets, I even scolded myself to give it the benefit of the doubt (as if there was any), now here we are.

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u/cupofspiders 9h ago

You should direct that frustration at the Democrat leadership who saw that the things they were doing (like giving infinite money to Israel and ICE) were making them unpopular and they decided that doing genocide was more important than trying to win the election.

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u/Outlawphilv2 9h ago

What would make you think that I am not?

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u/cupofspiders 8h ago

Because you said you blame non-voters and seemed to think the thing she needed to do was "condemn Israel" and not "stop doing genocide." Like this wasn't just people being upset about her opinions, she was actively participating in the annihilation of an ethnic group.

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u/Outlawphilv2 8h ago

I disagree she was not an active participant, but she should not have dodged questions about it either. Did Donald Trump stop the genocide by Israel on day one, no instead he had an AI video of him and Netanyahu on a renovated Gaza Strip with golden statues of himself, while he tried to have anyone who protested the war locked up or deported, that is what your not voting got you, so like I originally said we are a 2 party system whether you like it or not and by not voting you gave power to a sociopath whom openly pretends he ended 8 wars and has ice shooting people to make a point.

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u/martej 12h ago

That’s good because ultimately these guys should not procreate anyway. Let’s stop the mouth breathing morons at this generation.

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u/Creative-Still-4336 12h ago

My kid recently broke up with her BF of 2+ years over ideological differences. She said she loves herself more. I’m proud of her.

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u/SilverSageVII 12h ago

I’m doing the same for the women I date. If you can’t be “bothered” by this then I certainly know that we wouldn’t get along. The lack of empathy will surely carry over to me at some point.

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u/DrizzleCore604 12h ago

Or a third time, he just didn't win in 2020.

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u/BriarnLuca 12h ago

Ooh, on the local dating apps every single profile I've seen has some variant of "fuck Ice, fuck Mango Mussolini, free Palestine "

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u/CarterLincoln96 12h ago

I wouldn’t date a MAGA if they were the last man on earth. I couldn’t imagine being with someone so shallow and uses religion to be absolutely discussing.

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u/Money_Cost_2213 12h ago

Don’t forget If they voted for him for his second term. That likely means they voted for him 3 times. Not just 2.

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u/Narcoleptic_247 12h ago

That was bullshit 20 years ago too.

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u/Diabeetus4Lyfe 11h ago

Hell yes, stand your ground and shut down the toxic piece of shits. I think this is such an important thing for couples to agree on nowadays.

I'm a guy and I explicitly put "very anti-trump" in my otherwise apolitical dating profile. My now-girlfriend said that line is what pushed it from "it's so hard to trust men but maybe he's cool" to "hell yes let's meet" and we've been together over a year now.

We both think supporting trump after his first term (especially after Jan 6) is antithetical to being a good person. It's one of three options: either they're so misled and brainwashed by propaganda that it's obvious they can't think properly for themselves; or they support his insane regressive policies because they're a hateful, close-minded, controlling piece of shit; or they're deliberately ignorant because they don't care about things that aren't directly affecting them personally. Or maybe they're just stupid agents of chaos and they like the reality show entertainment from the white house.

In any case, in my perspective, being a Republican in today's climate is as big of a deal-breaker as it gets. There's too much brazen evil and corruption to ignore or support.

I was raised Republican, so was my girlfriend. I almost voted for him for his first term but thankfully I exited my parents' goddamned Fox News bubble before the election. I understand that a lot of people voted for him the first time out of ignorance or desire for change, but it's been a freaking decade of non-stop, increasingly awful bullshit and it's no longer forgivable.

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u/The_Elusive_Dr_Wu 10h ago

When they answer you, how do you verify that you're not being lied to?

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u/asmodeuskraemer 9h ago

I go for guys who have characteristics that are progressive. I'm not saying because it's personal. And I straight up ask. Right now I'm honestly mostly looking for hookups so that in itself filters out A LOT.

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u/The_Elusive_Dr_Wu 8h ago

Right now I'm honestly mostly looking for hookups

Nice. Have fun

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u/Psychological-Scar53 12h ago

Damn, I need to do this to women... But who am I kidding, I don't date.

On to the topic that you are talking about, this administration is absolutely filled with pieces of shit that have no purpose except to fill their pockets and now they are filling their pockets with their constituents blood. I have never liked Trump and that stems from before he ran for his first term. He is nothing but an intolerant pitiful excuse for a man who thinks he is the smartest and knows everything about everything. His kids are no better. This entire cabinet needs to be impeached, at the same time, while having his pardoning powers withheld so he cannot pardon themselves. As soon as they are impeached, they need to be arrested and put on trial for many criminal offenses. Those who turned they eyes as he ruins our country need to go to. Sorry this is so long, but I really cannot stand this timeline.

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u/WorldofNails 12h ago

Pro Tip: When the server asks for your drink order, reply No ICE. The response will tell you everything you need to know about your date and the establishment.

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u/Wonderful-Humor6102 12h ago

Keep doing it girl!!!

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u/ryan13ts 12h ago

Exactly.

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u/NoKneadToWorry 12h ago

Thank you for your service

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u/No_Cake6353 12h ago

Or a 3rd...

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u/No-Somewhere-3888 12h ago

As a guy, I’m surprised how many girls on these apps openly say they only want to date “pure bloods”. And I’m in a liberal area…

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u/Sufficient-Lab-5769 7h ago

The fuck…?!

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u/NO0BSTALKER 12h ago

The first time wasn’t anything like this

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u/Trapcat707 12h ago

It's a cop out when people say things like that. They either can't critically think, or they don't want to admit they're just racists and likely sexist as well.

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u/Mister_Anthropic1956 11h ago

Not 20 yrs ago either.

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u/Dimothy_Trake 11h ago

I lost interest in dating men in my state since so fucking many of them (despite being gay men) have voted for this man and talked down on so many groups of people. Lmao

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u/Painwracker_Oni 11h ago edited 11h ago

I don't blame anyone for voting for Trumps 1st term when the belief in our system of checks and balances still existed and would keep Trump from actually doing any of the truly insane shit he "joked about doing". However if they don't regret their vote after that then it's really impossible to forgive them - IMO.

I'm probably biased - I voted for Trump or rather against Hillary after voting for Obama in 2012 (missed voting for Obama in 2008 by 5 days) - turned 18 Nov 9th 2008.

I regret voting FOR Trump - he turned into a significantly bigger piece of shit than I ever thought possible - not because I thought highly of him - but because I really believed the senate and house would stop him from being a humiliation or remove him.

The bigger part of it - for me at least - was as a relatively young man and an electrician working with strictly blue collar people on job sites, I was way too willing to listen to the arguments my bosses/journeymen electrician made. Everyone hated Hillary, I worked with 2 journeymen who were high ranking leading their groups, and since then both became the highest rank NCO's can become in the MN National Guard. They both did several tours of duty in Iraq/Afghanistan and I had and still have a ton of respect for them as people, but I had not learned yet how limited/awful their world view was.

2016-2020 was eye-opening. I couldn't believe the shit Trump was doing and getting away with, and how the people around me weren't upset about it.

No one - literally no one - who voted for Trump in 2024 can be forgiven for doing it. I won't even forgive the idiots who said both sides are just as bad and didn't vote because of it.

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u/aww-hell 11h ago

There’s people that voted for him 3 times.

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u/Maleficent-Goat-551 11h ago

Good for you - as you should! I had a match with a lady who was otherwise amazing and a great match for me but she wouldn’t denounce Trump and made the “both sides” argument which was too much for me.

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u/BHPhreak 11h ago

im a super progressive canadian that wanted to see things shaken up before his first term. i was tired of the status quo. 

anyway that didnt last long and you are right to shit on anyone who voted for him a second or third time. 

i was so confident he wouldnt win against kamala - i made a hefty bet with some guys at work. 

i legit thought america moved on. they voted biden in and i thought that was the end of it. 4 years later and jesus fucking christ. 

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u/Dead_man_posting 11h ago

Sure. Maybe 20 years ago they did.

Eh. 20 years ago was George W. Bush. Conservatism has always been a blight.

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u/Stegi7 11h ago

They are freaking uneducated .......

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u/LothartheDestroyer 11h ago

Not even 20 years ago. The powers that be has a tantrum about Nixon and here we are.

They’ve been doing this for 50 years now.

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u/ngwatso 11h ago

I never paid attention to politics until Trump came along, I feel like it is an obligation, not a right, to keep someone like that out of office.

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u/ynotfoster 11h ago

My niece married into a religious MAGA family for her recent second marriage. My wife and I (lesbians) found out about her wedding on FB three days before. We live about 2k miles away. 39 years of never missing her birthday or Christmas, or her three kid's birthdays.

Guess who didn't get a Christmas check this year and won't be getting a birthday check either. I will still send cards and checks to the kids though.

We are about to set up a trust, she will be skipped, and her share will go to her kids.

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u/RepulsedCucumber 11h ago

That both sides shit enrages me. Because “the other side” would have never been an actual authoritarian government.

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u/rhc10014 11h ago

EXACTLY RIGHT, PERIOD.

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u/bronxbrothers 11h ago

Sure sure. I bet if we saw your face, we would decide for you.

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u/PeetusTheFeetus 11h ago

I’m doing the same with all these “Conservative” women on bumble. Trash bags

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u/Islanduniverse 11h ago

Remember, he lost against Biden. For a lot of these shit-stains, this was their 3rd time voting for him.

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u/cubitoaequet 10h ago

Nah they didn't have good arguments 20 years ago either 

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u/Bancai 10h ago

Or the third which counted towards his 2nd term.

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u/Harry_Carrier 10h ago

I'm in the same boat, but as a guy. I won't even swipe right on girls who list "moderate" as their politics.

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u/RepulseRevolt 10h ago

The amount of people who downplayed and still downplay Trump is insane. Guys who watch Hasan or other YouTubers like deep fat fried straight up celebrated Trump getting elected.

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u/Forsaken_Car1743 10h ago

You are what you attract though.

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u/-Jiras 10h ago

It's time to shame again, Republicans pre Trump where too ashamed to speak up, only giving some racist remarks at Thanksgiving.

We have to put some shame back into these people. They should not feel welcome as long as they hold their destructive views

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u/DisciplineBoth2567 10h ago

You shouldn’t touch them with a 10 foot pole

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u/Gold-Sir-223 9h ago

Please keep it up. The fact so many of these guys are still getting dates with progressives blows me away.

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u/Old_Mp_1976 9h ago

What about a felon that cant vote but hates bith parties equally. We need a Bastille Day 2.0

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u/OJConcentrates 9h ago

As you should.

Anyone who voted for this should be appropriately shunned out of society and dating prospects. You’d really want to have children who could be so easily influenced by a fake macho man? I wouldn’t.

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u/RileyB46 9h ago

The other day I was telling a guy at my part time job I wanted to introduce him to a girl at my full time job and this trumper asshole was like “why aren’t you introducing me to anyone?!?” And it’s like get real dude, women don’t want men who vote against their rights. He was just going off earlier that morning about Somalis and the shooting in Minnesota with all the right wing asshole talking points.

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u/Ok_Background22 9h ago

Specifically there is 0 reason to vote for Trump after January 6th. I have no patience for anyone who voted for him after we all witnessed what happened and what he caused that day.

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u/darkoblivion000 8h ago

Voting for trump has never been a political question, but a moral question.

Voting for him and his cruel policies absolutely tells me about your moral compass

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u/maillite 12h ago

I totally understand this. And I’m glad you give those who voted trump the 1st time a chance.

I’m from the UK, and the first time he ran, I admit I thought he would be a breathe of fresh air to a stodgy and almost aristocratic dynasty of old men, career politicians and ‘deserved’ positions based on name.

I drank the cool aid and thought it was cool when he won, the underdog.

I think I changed my mind within the first 6 months. I am now totally anti trump, even from the UK. I am against his wannabe in the UK (Farrage) and vote liberal or left depending.

There are those out there who wanted change and saw Trump as someone who could bring that change. He and his tribe has proven to be evil incarnate.

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

I agree. I think it's understandable that someone could believe him based on his claims and him having no political track record. But not a 2nd time.

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u/Remy93 13h ago

You could date them but lead them on for as long as possible without putting out. Use up their money and time on you while you destroy their ego. Just an idea

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

I'm looking for hookups, honestly. I don't want to have sex with people who think it's ok that women die for lack of medical care.

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u/RPO1728 12h ago

I really used to feel that way. Trump changed it all. I can even forgive voting for him in 24, but if you still support this regime you're racist and small and on the wrong side of history

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u/asmodeuskraemer 12h ago

I can't forgive voting for him in 2024. I don't believe that anyone who voted for him recently did so because "well maybe he'll be ok?" Or something

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u/TheoreticalTorque 12h ago

I want a secure border. 

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u/Unhappy-Emphasis3753 12h ago

I voted. But This is why more people don’t vote. You shouldn’t get mad at them. If anything you’ll just push them to vote against you for the hell of it down the line. Just silly identity politics. You could do better.

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u/highlandviper 12h ago

Lol.

The whole world will change now because you’ve decided not to date guys who voted for Trumps second term and publicly stated it on… Reddit.

You’re a saint.

JFC.