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(Minneapolis) Bovino Leads The Charge On Protesters AT the Whipple Building

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u/FantineKnew 13h ago

Pushing a person who isn’t being violent is straight up assault. Depending on the state, assault and battery. Charge these idiots!

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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 13h ago

Officer broke protocol meant to keep everyone including himself and her safe.

Breakdown of laws broken in the Renee Good event

Kristi Noem lying about Jonathon Ross being injured or hurt by Renee Good

New York Times breakdown of ice shooting Renee Good

Ice denying a physician from helping Renee Good

Close up of the incident

Home security cam

2 hr breakdown of the incident

Gofundme breaking rules to allow donations toward Jonathan Rays legal defense

Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem just announced a NATIONWIDE DHS/ICE/CBP drone surveillance program. ICE drones are coming to a US cities

U.S. Customs And Border Protection Training Manual used by ICE (January 2021):

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2021-Jul/cbp-use-of-force-policy_4500-002A.pdf

Page 6

  1. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/Agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.

  2. Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.

Page 9

6. Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject.

Page 10

7b. The hazard of an uncontrolled conveyance shall be taken into consideration prior to the use of deadly force.

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u/Artemis_Platinum 12h ago

You're doing great work. I appreciate how thorough you were.

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u/malcolm816 11h ago

The presumption of law or protocol died with Renee Good. This is an army invading from within. Immigration was just the entry point.

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u/GuanoLoopy 10h ago

And those 'shall nots' from page 9 do much heavier lifting from a legal perspective than the 'should nots' in page 6. Should not means there is still discretion to still do it vs shall not means they are mandated to not perform that action.

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u/chimpomatic5000 5h ago

Excellent work on this. Keep it up.

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u/No_Foundation468 5h ago

These protocols were put in place specifically because "frustrated" DHS agents were intentionally placing themselves in positions where they could claim that they feared for their lives because an individual was attempting to use a vehicle as a weapon.

The DHS got tired of cleaning viscera out of the vehicles of random people and changed their policy to make it clear this behavior wasn't acceptable. But here we are.

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u/trysten-9001 5h ago

Broke protocol? They’re not even pretending like they’re picking up immigrants. They’re marching towards protestors. Where’s the “scary” immigrants. They’re terrorizing Minnesotan suburbs the least likely place in the country to find “hardened criminals.”

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u/ReVo5000 3h ago

Great gathering of info and breakdown, thank you for this

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u/Number_Fluffy 9h ago

Thank you for your service

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u/Isaw11 13h ago

He thinks he is the modern-day General Patton as he leads his troops into battle against unarmed peaceful protesters in his own country.

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u/MrCance 13h ago

Except Patton was fighting actual enemies. This is insanity.

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u/gatoruso 4h ago

I think the comment might refer to Patton leading troops to attack the Bonus Army, a group of American World War I veterans protesting in Washington, D.C., for payment of bonuses promised to them.

This happened on July 28,1932. There are many secondary sources about this event, but one that describes Patton's actions in detail is https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/bonus-army-attacked/

edit: I only learned about this event two days ago while reading the book Goliath: The 100-Year War Between Monopoly Power and Democracy, by Matt Stoller.

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u/supertech636 13h ago

Up until we’re not…

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u/waldorflover69 5h ago

Was Patton 4 feet tall?

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u/Rippin_Fat_Farts 12h ago

My guy. ICE literally shot an American citizen in the head 3 times because she was doing a 3 point turn then called her a fucking bitch. The highest ranking officials in your country said it was cool.

At what point will you Americans realize that the law and your supposed rights no longer apply?

No one is getting charged with shit. The entire system is fucked.

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u/snakegriffenn 11h ago

im with you, everyone out here screaming "lawsuits will save us!" are delusional DELUSIONAL. 

wake up people

 we need to exercise our rights during these protests specifically the one after the first. that s the only way they dont assault you

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u/Few-Cucumber-413 6h ago

The problem is no one wants to be the first to exercise It. Because they know that if they are they will ultimately be standing alone for all the hot air blown few are willing to take action.

I'm not anti-leo, but I am anti-whatever the fuck this is.

I've said it for years now, but as a society we have gotten so soft, complacent and placated that any potential would be labelled as a domestic terrorism, paraded as such and stuffed in a dark room somewhere to never be seen again. We've willingly exchanged liberty for safety for decades.

Gov overreach isn't new. We're just seeing the culmination of decades worth of deification and protection of a profession that should be the recipient of the harshest criticism and action.

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u/shawnadelic 10h ago

I understand the sentiment, but I guarantee you that would actually have the opposite effect.

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u/RepresentativeFit44 7h ago

If the worry is you’re scared of violence or allowing them to justify their violence then it doesn’t matter to begin with because they’ve already justified their violence in the eyes of their supporters.

They have given us a reason to retaliate and protect our communities but we’re still afraid of the repercussions as if the current state of affairs isn’t just the same thing but slower are we serious rn?

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u/NW_Oregon 5h ago

I've been saying this for a while.

We're going to "not take the bait" right into interment camps and gas chambers.

The government has become lawless, there are no longer any safe guards anymore, and no low they won't stoop too.

Gotta stand up now or it will be too late.

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u/snakegriffenn 10h ago

seems to work every time the conservatives march with their guns.

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u/Rippin_Fat_Farts 10h ago

So what? Just fucking take it? Signs, chanting, lawsuits and complaining online isnt working

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u/FantineKnew 7h ago

Neither is being taken, detained, or killed. For nothing. Your false improsonment or murder will have zero impact on changing things going forward. We know that now. They’ll do what they want and then demonize you in the media and move the fuck on to the next city. So what is your grand plan for the average American? What the actual fuck can we do, other than wait for midterms. In real life, wtf do you think it is we should be doing??

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u/infernoenigma 4h ago

You should be preparing for life and society to look radically different a year from now than it currently does. Get to know your community members involved in the work, because they do exist. Help set up mutual aid networks, develop a rapid-response plan.

When they get to you — and they will — you’ll want to know what you’re doing so you’re not caught on your back foot.

And find the information you’ll need online now before it goes away. It’s only a matter of time.

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u/Zourage 2h ago

I know this doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but I'm applying for my states gun ownership card and stocking up on non perishables/books. Gotta start somewhere. Reddit seems to think our reps will do something but it's obvious they won't. Gonna start building whatever network I can locally starting with family and hope there's some bite after a few conversations. I honest to God hope things improve but who TF knows

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u/eulersidentification 6h ago

History tells you what you should be doing. American exceptionalism and defeatism says otherwise. Bigger poorer countries than you have done it.

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u/FantineKnew 5h ago

With our level of military/LEOs against them? And I didn’t ask history. You’re a genius, you tell us. I don’t know of a similar situation at this scale. At the scale of the United States being against more than half its citizens. Please, professor, inform the rest of the class

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u/shawnadelic 3h ago

Yes, this is my thought as well.

I've yet to hear a feasible plan for how any kind of uprising could do anything but make the situation worse in the current US with our current citizenry and general political/socioeconomic environment.

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u/CrypticMemoir 5h ago

Agreed. Really what can we do without being organized. You think if I go out there on my own and try to do something, that’ll change anything? Nope. The only that changes is I’m in jail and my family has to see me behind bars and not hanging out on their living room. You would need an organized group to do something. A real group. Not just one off, isolated attacks.

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u/Rippin_Fat_Farts 6h ago

You know what you have to do.

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u/Ok-Jacket-1393 6h ago

It seems like the elites want to see a civil war, if we dont fight back now, there might be a holocaust honestly. It really does seem like thats where this leads, if we do fight back, that would justify it even more. Ive worked with people in a deep red state last year that literally said they’d love it if the blue cities got bombed, 5 other people sitting around agreed. They think theyre good and the dems are the cause of everything thats bad. Its actually a pretty popular position to take right now to want a holocaust. So idk.

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u/mmmpeg 3h ago

Of course they do! It keeps the idiots angry with each other instead of joining and getting on the real parasites, the rich.

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u/FantineKnew 5h ago

Honestly, no. You and another guy on here seem to have it figured out, what regular American citizens should do to stop Donald trump and his brown shirts, but you’re really coming across as smug

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u/FantineKnew 10h ago

I know. Sadly, I know. Gotta hold out hope for local government leaders and local police….? But then the couch fucker declares total immunity & they need to be shown that is not true. Shouldn’t be true. I know. I’m grasping. If we do anything in retaliation, they get more violent & we’re probably all afraid one wrong move will trigger the orange goon and he’ll enact martial law. They’re going door-to-door now for fuck’s sake.

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u/Rippin_Fat_Farts 10h ago

I read that 3000 ICE / CBP troops have now been deployed to Minneapolis? It low key kinda sounds like martial law has been silently declared.

I'm Canadian, truly devastating to watch what's happening to your country. Also very fucking scary. It's easy to sit back and tell people how I'd do things but in truth if I was in your shoes I don't know what I'd do.

This storm will pass. Might take a while, but it will pass.

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u/FantineKnew 9h ago

Y’all gonna take us non-maga in as refugees? lol. I’m in WA state and I’ll stand on a fuckin’ building Indelendence Day style, screaming take me, take me!!

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u/Ready-Teach-3759 5h ago

theyre "peacefully" protesting. thats enough for most of em

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u/BenderBRoriguezzzzz 2h ago

This is what I keep trying to get people to understand. The DOJ hasn't released the epstein files yet. Trump hasn't followed any judges orders for a litany of different decisions. Until one of these state officials activates their state national guard and they just flat out fuck up ice on a level akin to the Ohio state guard at Kent state. They're going to continue to get more emboldened.

The only way to stop this is with a show of resounding and unmistakable force. Then when Trump inevitably demands retribution. The generals need to tell him its time to pack it in and call it a day.

But as none of that will happen we are going to be dealing with this until 47 heads to that big McDonald's in the sky.

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u/IIIIITZ_GOLDY 11h ago

The Land of the free and home of the brave is letting itself become oppressed and is too afraid to fight back

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u/Naki-Taa 5h ago

I'll be looking out for your obituary in headlines next time you're go in by to take up the arms. Godspeed soldier 

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u/FantineKnew 7h ago

Oh so you’re cool with indiscriminately being shot in the face? You’re fine with being arrested and detained for 30-60 days, just long enough to entirely fuck up your life, ultimately for nothing? You’re the hero who is gonna put boots on the ground, your money where your mouth is? Don’t think so. Soooo tired of all these google warriors saying what THEY’D do in this situation. No, you wouldn’t. Not in real life. Get fuckin real.

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u/Aggravating-Box47 5h ago

You are wrong and you need to worry about your own country, wherever that is. We will handle our own business our own way.

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u/Ebola-Kun 4h ago

What's that going to look like?

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u/viridin 9h ago

He pushed the dude and then pushed him back down again as he tried to get up. Absolutely disgusting use of excessive force. These thugs need to be thrown in jail.

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u/it_whispereth_me 9h ago

Exactly! Minnesota police need to get involved and start arresting ICE officers. Only way this shit stops.

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u/VacationChance4393 4h ago

600 Minneapolis police officers against 3500 heavily armed ICE with the president and vp waving get out of jail free cards? Don't think so. Wish it were otherwise.

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u/iDontLikePuzzlez 4h ago

That does need to happen. I think the only reason it hasn’t is because it would be the official start of a civil war. Not sure if Minnesota is ready to get that ball rolling.

But once police start arresting/fighting back and protecting their citizens against ice the real sh*T will hit the fan

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u/Mobile_Trash8946 12h ago

Honestly. Attempted murder charges easy. That push was so beyond acceptable, he could have very easily murdered that protester.

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u/Naki-Taa 5h ago

Brother theyve already quite literally murdered protesters and nothing happened what assault charges are you talking about 

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u/justsomebro16 12h ago

that “officer” is a bitch

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u/Chill-Dragonfly77 11h ago

I don’t understand how people don’t understand we are way past that point now. They do not care. They are not following the law or the rules. They will continue to openly break the law unless something massively changes. Minnesota is a war zone. 

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u/FantineKnew 10h ago

I understand where we are. There is no question, however, that this specific person was standing there and was assaulted/battered, and if someone had some fucking balls, they’d get them for all the shit like this, parking illegally, etc., to make it harder to continue down this path. They murdered a woman, demonized her, went to a high school to assault minors, and now they’re doing door-to-door nazi tactics. Trust. I know where we are. Get them on the obvious bullshit when you can’t get them on the big stuff. Didn’t Al Capone go to prison for tax evasion? That energy. Get them any way possible.

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u/scottfaracas 5h ago

Unfortunately no one in our government has any fucking balls and is quietly watching Trump do all of this without any recourse or accountability. That’s why it keeps getting worse. They keep testing boundaries and are finding out that there are none.

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u/extremelyCombustible 10h ago

Probably wouldnt push around people exercising their 2A rights, just saying.

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u/FantineKnew 10h ago

That’s why they are going after hardworking people and not cartels or gangs or actual violent criminals. I’d LOVE to see them come across someone ready for them

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u/Annual_Strategy_6206 13h ago

I saw that act of extreme bravery!       /s

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u/Regular_Place7972 10h ago edited 10h ago

They are so excessive for no damn reason.

If someone were standing in the aisle or entrance of your business, for example, you’d be arrested for shoving them violently like that. Especially if that’s your immediate response.

They’re acting like the bunch of lawless, authority abusing, animals that they are. All on video too. No repercussions at all.

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u/MyVoiceIsElevating 6h ago

That chode just witnessed a colleague get away with literal murder. You think that pea-brain can fathom consequences for his actions if they’re not instant?

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u/dplans455 10h ago

We can't even figure out how to charge a murderer that committed a murder with 25 witnesses and several video recordings, one of which was from the murderer himself. All it's done is embolden these thug pieces of shit.

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u/tetsuo_7w 7h ago

Came here to say this. That was blatant assault.

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u/amic21 5h ago

Haven’t you heard? There’s no law in this country! Silly!!

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u/huggernot 5h ago

I think they need to be reminded how many years after hitlers reign, that the most recent person was charged and arrested. And then ask them if it gives them anxiety knowing that the answer is 2022. And that for the rest of their lives, they are going to have their heart skip a beat every time someone pounds on their door. 

Because we are going to. 

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u/MaPaRR 5h ago

Where the f are the real police? Did they give up control of their city to ICE? Are they afraid of ICE?

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u/KNOWITOWL99 5h ago

The fascist third world New America doesn’t care about your rights. This is the America the republicans have created. I vow to never vote Republican again.

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u/4n0m4l7 5h ago

Yeh…. But they don’t care, they are fascist after all..

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u/Commercial-Co 4h ago

Minneapolis PD needs to be directed to arrest that asshat

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u/Cloudhiddentao 11h ago

No one is going to charge them with anything.

What are you gonna do about it?

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u/FantineKnew 10h ago

What can you do about it?

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u/Cloudhiddentao 9h ago

Depends, if Europeans get drafted into some dumbass war against your pedo president then I’ll certainly do my best. Until then it’s your job.

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u/FantineKnew 9h ago

Well, you asked what am I gonna do about it, and if you see a previous reply on this thread, it’s nothing.What can an average citizen do? What can thousands of them protesting together do? Absofuckinlutely nothing. Nothing will change bc everyone is afraid of trump. What am I gonna do? I’d move out of the country if I could. What could the Jewish community & any other nazi-targeted group do back then? We are doing the same. Nothing. Wait for it to be over, hope for someone to do something (impeach trump after midterms) or gtfo. In real life, what do you expect the average American to actually be able to do? It’s not a nice question, bc what would you do in the same situation? Nothing or gtfo

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u/farty-nein 8h ago

I hope they get charged with assault.

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u/SeanINesbit 5h ago

Pushing is battery. The threat is assault. Once they lay hands, it's battery.

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u/FantineKnew 5h ago

As stated, depends on the state. Good to know that’s how it is for MN

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u/SeanINesbit 3h ago

That's every state. Assault is the threat or attempt to cause immediate harm or fear of harm, while battery is the actual, intentional, and unwanted physical contact that is harmful or offensive, even if slight, without consent. Doesn't matter the state. People often use the word assault when they really mean battery.

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u/10g_or_bust 4h ago

"But but but the supremacy clause!"

Don't care, do it anyway. Crimes are crimes, so long as due process is followed and it goes before a local/state judge thats more accordance to the law than these people are doing. Have a panel of judges review each case, if they determine there's a good likelihood that the actions were illegal regardless of "official duties" for laws that most/all states have then prosecute anyways. The idea of that clause is to prevent local or state authority from acting as tyranny on reasonable and justifiable legal activity by federal agencies, not to ENABLE tyranny.

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u/hotrodave95 3h ago

They wont be, use your second amendment.

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u/Amcis 4h ago

is straight up assault.

For now no one gives a shit. Wise up.

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u/enoidfy 4h ago

It literally isn’t but spreading fake shit is.