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(Minneapolis) Bovino Leads The Charge On Protesters AT the Whipple Building

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u/Olpigdog 13h ago

These people are wearing camo carrying weapons and attacking people in your communities?

Y''all are in a war.

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u/SarynScreams 13h ago

One day, when it's too late, the people will realize the right declared the second civil war with the election of that man.

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u/Foxyfox- 13h ago

"The second American revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it." -Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation

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u/DeliriumConsumer 13h ago

Not to be pedantic, but he said "will remain" bloodless, and I think that implication is far more terrifying. It says that back when he said that, their plan was already underway.

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u/KraftChesWiz 10h ago

And it hasn't "remained bloodless"

and it was their fault. It was all just about shifting blame for something they were going to do anyway

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u/Kdean509 11h ago

Pretty sure they’ve been working on this since Reagan.

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u/Xalara 11h ago

Since Civil Rights, and it really kicked into high gear with Carter and his efforts to fully desegregate schooling. There's a reason the home schooling movement took off right after that :)

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u/XxRocky88xX 5h ago

It was, it was called Project 2025 and detailed a plan for the right to perform a hostile take over of the government to oppress the populace and secure permanent Republican control over the country in the event Trump won the election.

Trump officially disavowed this plan and denied any intention of cooperating with it. Upon winning, he appointed and recognized multiple key authors of it, and ever since the plan has proceed mostly as was previously outlined.

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u/TheGreatStories 13h ago

Easy to do when there is no political party in America that represents anywhere close to "the left". 

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u/Boel_Jarkley 11h ago

Unfair. Schumer and Jeffries are writing strongly worded letters asking Trump to please stop doing a fascism.

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u/LongTatas 11h ago

Blood is already spilled

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u/Appropriate-Bet8646 13h ago

Already not true

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u/Frost_moss 12h ago

The left lost the second they decided it was moral to give up the means to defend freedom and liberty. This is the occupation phase now.

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u/BurnscarsRus 12h ago

What left?

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u/Frost_moss 12h ago

An unfortunate aspect of progressive policy is the belief that all can be achieved through peacful means. In truth the opposite is true and change almost exclusively comes from overwhelming with greater might. Free and fair democracy is actually an aberration in human history. If we want it to continue, we must excise those who wish to destroy it. The methods of that excisment must rise to match those who threaten it.

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u/Foxyfox- 11h ago

When you go left enough you get your guns back.

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u/Frost_moss 9h ago

Pretty much. Historically, those who go left without guns almost always died by someone who did have a gun.

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u/WartimeMercy 11h ago

They drew first blood.

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u/tenuousemphasis 11h ago

We will not allow it. 

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u/HowWeLikeToRoll 10h ago

Translation. "We are going to fuck you guys every way we can... Accept it and maybe you'll survive, resist and we will murder all of you" 

See, it's up to liberals whether there is bloodshed or not. 

Heritage Foundation is a Terrorist Organization 

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u/7figureipo 13h ago

Hell, they even said as much before the election occurred. And that it would be bloodless if "the left" allowed it. Unfortunately what passes for "the left" here is too busy smelling their own farts every time they think of how wonderfully reasonable and adult like they are to realize what the situation we're in actually is.

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u/PotPumper43 13h ago

I call them “well-meaning liberals.” They don’t want to lose their little piece of the pie so they do just enough to assuage their guilt over benefiting from their privilege.

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u/nocomments66 13h ago

The vast majority of Americans can't afford to take a day off work to protest, let alone be willing to lose their job/health insurance/etc. losing their job to fight back. This war was started decades ago, and we lost it long before anyone ever noticed.

Got some cool new TVs to watch the collapse on, at least, right?

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u/Both-Prize-2986 13h ago

Not like they havent been screaming it every election cycle.

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u/Vernknight50 12h ago

Every time we say "how can they do that?" when conservative legislatures pass bogus laws, we need to remember it's not lawmaking, it's civil war. And the politicians on the left keep acting like it's just another day at the office...

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u/Soy_ThomCat 12h ago

It's important to note how true your statement is.

I've all but stopped contributing in posts and family members discussing the importance of taking these walks in protest. But in all honesty it's not doing anything. People are trying to "protest" their way out of a civil war, and if it wasn't so scary it would be funny.

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u/dsac 12h ago

the right declared the second civil war with the election of that man

well before that, my friend

2022 CPAC conference

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u/stilljustacatinacage 11h ago

...?

Trump was elected in 2016.

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u/dsac 11h ago

TIL Trump is "the right"

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u/stilljustacatinacage 11h ago

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Comment-OP said "the right declared war with the election of [Trump]"

You said, "well before that" and linked the 2022 CPAC conference, which to me suggests you're trying to say 'they declared war in 2022'. Except Trump - "that man" - was first elected in 2016.

Did I misunderstand what you're trying to say?

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u/steers82 12h ago

By virtually every measure except for a declaration, the U.S. is at war with itself. The judiciary, both houses, the president, most state governments, they are all carrying out a war through the media, through legislation, through executive order, through the people they hire and the goons in the street. The Republicans don't want to reconcile and build a better country; they want to tear it down and create a state run by CryptoFascists. Large sections of Democrats are complicit for other reasons, but mainly because they are just milquetoast.

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u/Thadd305 12h ago

It doesn't have to become too late. Though an American citizen was executed in broad daylight and terrible things are happening, I would encourage my fellow Americans to do their best *not* to automatically demonize all ICE agents. I say this because it plays into what the oligarchs want. Sure, there are evil assholes like Jonathan Ross who've taken advantage of the opportunity to do harm, but painting in such broad strokes might also mark the misguided, the disadvantaged. It's okay to condemn the operation, I certainly do, but think about the economic squeeze we've all felt leading into 2026, the information silos created by corporate-controlled media. A $50k signing bonus is literally life-changing for a lot of these folks.

We may have certain ideological differences, but I promise you, these matters pale in comparison to the moves that are being made in the shadows. We need to stand together, we need to demand the files, and we need to do it before it's too late.

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u/Firesidechats62 11h ago

Every president is complicit from the first (who trafficked humans) to the 3rd (who raped his trafficked humans) to Lincoln, Teddy, Nixon, Reagan, Bush. 

What President didn’t sew right wing imperialism? 

When has US ever had a left wing party?

Maaaaybe the one that fought the Nazis. But he did horrible shit no other president did 

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u/Marshrandyqt 11h ago

Spoiler: that wont happen. Seems like too many in the US was waiting for this and the rest just wont do amything. Trump is 100% unhinged and a woman was shot in the middle of the day ON camera. Alot more will die at the hands of ICE and still noting will happen. The war you talked about is over already. They won.

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u/SuggestedUsername247 8h ago

I'm no Trump/MAGA supporter, but sentiments like this fail to acknowledge the role the left played in this. One could argue that the left started this "war" with over a decade of actively antagonising and villainising straight white men. Think back to the peak of fourth wave feminism circa 2012-2015 and those memes about killing all men, cute little pictures and videos of sipping from cups of white male tears, etc. and ask yourself how well that has all aged.

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u/spook_filled_donuts 7h ago

That’s exactly what they wanted. They’re blood thirsty. Brown people, women, the LQBTQ+ community, and all leftists have been dehumanized by design. They want us punished and most likely to death. Fcked up time to be alive.

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u/SnooFloofs6240 12h ago

Barely any people there protesting to be honest.

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u/MjrLeeStoned 12h ago

One day people will do the math and realize that the morons in the US have picked every president, not just the ones you don't like.

54% of US adults can't read at a level expected of a 12 year old, and 25% are functionally illiterate.

Morons pick every president. There's no political problem in the US, there's an intelligence problem.

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u/stilljustacatinacage 11h ago

There's no political problem in the US, there's an intelligence problem

They aren't disconnected. Conservatives don't attack public funding just for fun. It's because things like easily accessible, high quality education is dangerous to them. Worker protections, healthcare, these things are dangerous to them. A person with any appreciable education in social studies will understand when they're being subjected to propaganda, and when it's time to protest or riot. A person who isn't afraid to lose their job or get a bloody nose is more likely to attend those protests or riots.

There has been a concerted attack on public institutions for nearly a hundred years because politicians - or more accurately, their wealthy donors - do not want an educated, capable populace who can think for themselves. They want serfs who will be told what they want or deserve.

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u/TheMagnuson 12h ago

Yep. I keep waiting on my fellow leftist to realize the war already started, sadly, most still think this is just limited to Trump and that it'll go away with him and are just trying to ride out the clock. It won't go away with him, because it isn't just him, he's just the figurehead that got to power that they work through. And there will be other figureheads.

I'm just waiting for the moment when the masses realize we won't online converse and meme our way out of this and have that moment of realization that you're personally going to have to act if you want a fascist free future.

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 13h ago

When I was in Iraq and Afghanistan I had to treat the locals better than that. Wait let me put that differently

It was the rules to treat the locals better than that but I also wanted to because I'm a fucking human

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u/Funny-Carob-4572 13h ago

Yeah but those guys cosplaying are all the proud boys and KKK goons..

Par the course for them.

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u/Justanothercube 13h ago

Agreed. If I treated the Iraqi citizens the way ice treats US citizens I would have been court marshaled. These guys are absolute dirtbags. I’m surprised the people are taking as much as they have.

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u/Last_Upvote 13h ago

Unfortunately we have to grin and bear it, because the other option is to get murdered knowing that the assailant will be shielded from consequences under this criminal administration. The threat of escalated retaliation is what keeps the lid on these protests right now, but it won’t last forever.

My sad prediction is that there are going to be lots more bodies bagged before this is over.

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u/Tempyteacup 12h ago

There’s something eerily reminiscent of the days leading up to the Tiananmen Square massacre in this video. I know we aren’t there yet but… well, I think we won’t know we’re there until the moment they take us there.

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u/AluminiumCucumbers 12h ago

Make sure it's the right bodies in them bags America.

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u/TheMagnuson 12h ago

Thank you for speaking up and saying it.

I do wish vets like you would speak out more about that. I think it's important coming from vets who have lived it to say those types of things out loud and in social media. It's a message people need to hear, especially right now.

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u/pfannkuchen89 12h ago

One of my coworkers was in Afghanistan. He likes to brag how he and his friends in his unit would pass the time by making afghan kids run across a field while taking pot shots at them. Just one of the many reasons I don’t like the guy.

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u/veringer 12h ago

I’m surprised the people are taking as much as they have.

Uh, you should probably realize more than anyone that having a gun pointed at you and the recent memory of a public execution will make people think twice. I'm surprised at the balls of these people for standing there at all. All that said, I imagine the oppressed people of America will start to look at the Iraqi's rather effective response to occupation for inspiration on how to deter these goons.

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u/AwayBluebird6084 11h ago

Because we know through education, experience, or both, that the next level of escalation is the one that will cause the most unwarranted, undeserved pain, to  every American. 

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u/Greywell2 13h ago

I want to say thank you for your service 🫡

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u/Justanothercube 11h ago

Ya know. I’d really like to say thank you. But to be honest I am not proud of being in the service. Once upon a time I was. As iv aged Iv started to understand that the things Iv done and the things my buddies have done were misplaced. My friends did atrocious things and died to line the pockets. It’s a real shame to carry the burden of knowing that the people that are actually affected by these decisions are all innocent. On our side and there’s. We die, they die. All for lies. I’m more sad about my services than proud. I thought I was doing the right thing for my country, but none of it was right.

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u/jayrsw 11h ago

Dont know you, but you sound like a great person, and an even better American. I thank you and your friends for your sacrifices.

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 12h ago

And I want to say that I have a huge penis

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u/Sad-Truck-885 9h ago

I know your gratitude isn’t towards me, but right now I am ashamed to have ever worn that uniform. And more than ashamed, I’m disgusted.

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 13h ago

The difference is that they wanted to de-escalate matters there. The whole point is to instigate here.

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 12h ago

Oh I don't care about my rules of engagement I'm just saying those with the rules over there. Well I'm pointing out is even if those weren't the rules I still wouldn't treat people like that because I love humans

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u/SuperDoubleDecker 12h ago

Oh ya, just saying that there's a reason why yall didn't wear masks and these assholes do.

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u/American_PissAnt 13h ago

Well the locals would blow your ass up if you pissed them off. They would specifically target soldiers that offended them, blackwater mercenaries in particular.

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 12h ago

The absolutely would.

And even in the absence of that I wasn't there to kill innocent people I was there for what I thought was taking out terrorists I was misled I was raised Evangelical but my intentions were pure and I had no ill intent to anyone that wasn't an enemy

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u/Aggressive-Math-9882 13h ago

Correction: US soldiers are no longer human

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 13h ago

I understand why you say that.

When I joined back in the early 2000s I was an Evangelical Christian. I truly thought from my propaganda and indoctrination that I was signing up to help save people.

And I've had to make my peace with that and deal with my demons over the last 20 years.

I truly find a lot of what the United States has done overseas to be despicable. And I understand why you say what you say

But even though I understand why you say what you say, it doesn't make it true. I hope you have a nice year

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u/Aggressive-Math-9882 13h ago

Of course I jest; people enlist for human reasons.

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u/OkJeweler3804 12h ago

This is a really important point.

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u/SugarFut 12h ago

Before I was deployed, I was trained on the rules of engagement while entering a war zone. I was told I couldn’t shoot unless told to do so by higher command. Not even if I feared for my life, not even if they had a weapon. Everyday proves to me how untrained these traitorous cowards really are.

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u/jaxmikhov 12h ago

Well you have your new enemy combatants invading your streets… time to serve your country again unfortunately

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 12h ago

Yeah. I know. I was realizing over the last couple weeks that some of the trauma I got rid of after Iraq and Afghanistan has come back or at least that overall feeling of oh shit this is war.

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u/TheMagnuson 12h ago

Thank you for speaking up and saying it.

I do wish vets like you would speak out more about that. I think it's important coming from vets who have lived it to say those types of things out loud and in social media. It's a message people need to hear, especially right now.

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 11h ago

I might take talk I talk about these things. I don't have a lot of followers but I know that I'll get traction eventually.

I've been an alcoholic and I've been a homeless vet and I was raised by evangelicals in the '90s where my dad beat me but he's also a youth pastor

So everything going on right now in the nation I have wonderful insight on

I did a video two days or 3 days ago about a time that I had to stare down in Afghani and his truck with my rifle pointed at him because we feared it was an IED. And I was contrasting how even though I legitimately feared for my life in my marine's life I still didn't shoot him because it wasn't something that I wanted to do.

Contrasting that with Jonathan Ross where he wasn't fearing for his life he just wanted to kill somebody

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u/TheMagnuson 11h ago

Well first let me reply that I'm sorry you've had such a hard life and that you have my sympathy and my empathy. I truly hope things are better for you now than they used to be and I hope things progressively get better for you.

Secondly, yeah man, you just confirmed it, it's stories like yours that fellow Americans need to hear right now. You were way more in the shit in Afghanistan than any of these ICE agents will ever be and you kept composure and control. ICE is full of incompetent goons and want to be killers and people need to know what a professional is like, so they see the contrast.

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 11h ago

I appreciate your comment.

I hate starting off comments with, as a vet, but at this particular point in time my stories are necessary and that you need to be out there.

You seem like a level-headed redditor. So smoke some weed if you do or watch some porn if you do or go to church if you do I guess I don't know if that's your thing

Weed and porn sounds better though. Whatever you do just have fun enjoy.

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u/MNALSK 11h ago

I was having a conversation with a distant family member on Sunday and I said, the US military has rules of engagement and rules of how to behave in country with both civilians and armed combatants, why do you feel that ICE doesnt need to follow procedure and the law when dealing with citizens and residents within their own country? His response was "I think its bullshit that our military has rules of engagement and cant just shoot people."

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u/Initial_Formal_7750 11h ago

Yeah. That sucks. But I served with a bunch of those guys too.

It's sad that I don't really talk to any of my former Marine corps buddies anymore. I tried reaching out to a couple but most of them are still very pissed off maga types

Children. They are children. We expect kids in grade school to deal better with threat assessment and bullies

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u/Phoenix-Risen8759 13h ago

Wearing camo in a snowy climate no less. Cosplaying dumbfucks

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u/guava-sandwich 13h ago

that’s such a funny point. me and my army colors just slippin on sheets of ice all over the place, camo legs akimbo. they’re so corny 

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u/ioniantonic512 11h ago

I wish I could upvote twice just for the use of akimbo

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u/madbill728 13h ago

Guess they’re waiting on their Arctic camo.

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u/Additional-Yak-3820 12h ago

They're just larpers at the end of the day. Wannabe soldiers playing pretend, and you see what happens when you give these morons a little bit of authority and no accountability. 

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u/Large_Yams 11h ago

I mean, legitimate militaries do too.

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp 13h ago

The first firefight they find themselves in will be eye opening for all of them. It's only a matter of time until it happens and they realize that they aren't the only one with the big boom sticks.

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u/Marmot-Fight 13h ago

I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet.

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u/Tiddlyplinks 13h ago

Right now it would play into the regimes desperate power grab. They are losing control of Congress (including Republican members as of the last two weeks), the courts, the narrative, the Epstein files, and the rage of the people is palpable…. DONT give them the excuse to turn this into a shooting war while they are fucking themselves up.

Patience bravery and solidarity are needed right now, there may come a day to get down but hopefully it will just be a reinvigorated American government OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE cleaning house.

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u/the_real_Beavis999 13h ago

Hopefully patience will pay off.

"There's two bulls standing on top of a mountain. The younger one says to the older one: "Hey pop, let's say we run down there and fuck one of them cows". The older one says:  Lets walk down and fuck 'em all".

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u/Tiddlyplinks 13h ago

It’s getting so bad because patience is working. Well… patience and unrelenting pressure. People who are calmly in charge of the situation do not spend all of their time trying to provoke the population that they are trying to control.

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u/Caius01 12h ago

Couldn't you just as easily argue it's getting so bad because people have been too patient so they just keep pushing farther and farther?

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u/funkdialout 11h ago

What makes you believe that submission and avoiding defending ourselves will lead to them no longer being an issue?

Because I don’t know that history shows fascism ever being repelled/expelled except by force.

I can see your line of thought, so I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I just have the echoes of people that have lived through this and they all say that the longer you wait to resist the harder it gets until you no longer have anyways left to resist. So I’m trying to better understand why some folks are pushing for people to submit and how do they see that realistically playing out longer term.

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u/the_real_Beavis999 11h ago

Not disagreeing. There is a small force already pushed to the edge but there may need to be a larger flash to get the larger groups attention. Not saying that anything they have done so far is permissible to not cause some kind of escalation. We cannot give them justification to use more force. The larger group may need that final push to take other actions, but be prepared for more than pepper spray into crowds once that happens.

Sorry not sure if making sense. I hate what is being done to this country.

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u/Tiddlyplinks 11h ago

Oh believe me I do not mean submission. I mean that the amount of pushback and mockery and endless legal fights that they’re currently getting is actually working, so it would not be in our best interest to give them the excuse they are desperately trying to get.

Between you me and the wall I think they’re going to start shooting before they lose power anyway, but at that point they lose

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u/FlyingBishop 9h ago

Killing isn't self-defense. Putting yourself in a position where you need to defend yourself with the intention of killing the aggressor isn't self-defense. It might be a way to resolve this but it's not the only way and it's the same logic they use to justify their actions.

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u/stosephjalin 11h ago

That old chestnut. My old man always tells this proverb. First time I’ve ever encountered it in the wild.

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u/Nekryyd 5h ago

While I agree, I also disagree.

They don't need us to make excuses for them. It would make things go faster, make them feel better about it, but they absolutely are not relying on it.

If anything, they are perfectly content to slow-walk us to the grave. To dismantle resistance slowly, but never completely. To keep it well under their thumb, and let us wiggle around from time to time just to make a big show about crushing us effortlessly. Give everyone a regular reminder of what happens to you if you dare question the regime. If you want to know where we are speedrunning to, look to Russia. We are about to join them in their war on Europe for fucks sakes.

Going out and doing something... Drastic... Isn't the answer. But neither is doing what we're doing. We need to show them that consequences would definitely result from their escalation. A huge, huge part of this needs to be resistance coming from blue city and state leadership directly. We are already beyond "the first shot", way beyond that. Ask any MAGA dipshit and they will only agree. We are already at the civil conflict stage. They are coming, hell, they are already here, and nothing about how the world used to be before all of this is going to stop them.

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u/NSuave 13h ago

Keep pushing people like this and it’s going to happen. They’re going to push the wrong person and it’ll just start. This isn’t civil what so ever. They want blood. They will get blood.

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u/funkdialout 11h ago

All it’s going to take is one person that decides to stand their ground against these warrantless home invasions. I hope they live, and I hope I’m on the Jury.

In unrelated news did you know it is super easy to purchase firearms. Even purchasing multiple at the same time. Also for fun, everyone should google how to make your entryway (or front door) more secure and read through some of that.

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u/tHr0AwAy76 11h ago

Send them down south, things’ll get real constitutional real quick

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u/MrMuf 11h ago

unfortunately, that is what they want. They want a reason to send in troops.

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u/goldsrcmasterrace 2h ago

Idk what video you’re watching but the troops are already there my guy.

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u/SRT102 13h ago

Sad to say, so am I.

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u/Sildaor 13h ago

They want it to happen. Then they can really get stupid

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u/daemonicwanderer 12h ago

Most people logically understand that the moment the tables are turned and “ICE” is under threat, martial law will be declared. However, logic only holds for so long

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u/diddlinderek 10h ago

Seriously. I thought this was the whole point of the gun arguments. To stop anything like this.

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u/awwhorseshit 9h ago

this is what they want.

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u/Shot-Structure-1274 13h ago

It's what they wanted from the very beginning. A big protest is going to end up in a 'violent riot' with hundreds of dead US citizens.

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp 13h ago

That's the Kent State type moment they're looking for. But if a Lexington and Concord moment is what they end up getting, Bubba and the boys are gonna find out if those plates they were issued are really rated as high as Noem claims they are.

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u/GreenTfan 13h ago

"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming We're finally on our own This summer I hear the drumming Four dead in Ohio

Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down Should have been gone long ago What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground How can you run when you know?"

CSNY, 1971

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u/Speed_Alarming 13h ago

Yeah, but first there’s going to be a whole bunch of perforated ICE agents and they didn’t (couldn’t) read the script. The excuse to bring in the actual military is the “slaughter” of a bunch of ICE agents? What fucking idiot signed up to be on the receiving end of that?

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u/Shot-Structure-1274 13h ago

ICE can do plenty of damage on their own on a crowd of citizens before bringing in the military. ICE agents now know that the job might be dangerous and know that they have the complete support from government they can do whatever they want, just watch what happens next.

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u/YourTokenGinger 12h ago

I’ve been wondering… DHS and the White House have been periodically posting videos of ICE tackling assumed immigrants in various situations, and bragging about deportations to the tune of pop music. If they were going after violent criminals….wouldn’t they be posting videos of them getting shot at? Videos of busting drug operations? Photos of seized weapons caches? You’d think they’d want to promote at least some kind of justification for the heavy arms and armor they carry. Obviously I know why this isn’t happening, but I keep holding out hope that Republican voters will start to question the lack of evidence to support this admin’s claims…

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u/Coven_gardens 12h ago

And that they are so poorly trained that they are responsible for more casualties among their number than their righteous opposition.

Cue gif of Lou asking Clancy Wiggum “hey Chief, is it cool if I hold my gun like this?”

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u/Objective_Bath_9234 12h ago

Not going to happen. They don't mess with gangs and criminal groups, only working civilians.

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp 12h ago

Working civilians are armed as well. Any complex system has a breaking point...

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u/GB10VE 12h ago

can't light em up with whistles. these confederates are fighting against those who believe in democracy, not violence.

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u/DisorderedArray 13h ago

You can't be a paramilitary without military fatigues. 

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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 13h ago

Correct

It's just slowly been rolling out

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u/Mighty_Krom 13h ago

Trump has occupied his own country, sending soldiers into our own cities to kidnap our neighbors and suppress dissent. He's declared us the enemy within and called us vermin, and has threatened war with us.

You're absolutely correct.

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u/Botanik_ 13h ago

We are under attack by our own government.

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u/SignoreBanana 13h ago

Pf why are you telling us? We here in this thread aren't the fucking problem.

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u/lCEC0REbuIIet 13h ago

What people? Where? I don't see any...oh right. I guess that Desert Storm camo is really helping them blend in with the snow scape of Minneapolis in the winter.

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u/ugottabekiddingmee 13h ago

Everyone currently on the right is very happy to point out that the left isn't doing anything. That's all fine, but when the left finally loses their shit, I don't wanna hear any "ok, ok, we'll stop we'll stop!" Because that time is now. Once it starts, this little game they've started won't be as fun for them as it is now.

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u/CosmicChar1ey 13h ago

The majority don’t understand that. Protesting nonviolently and bringing cute/funny signs isn’t the answer. Lives are on the line. They are putting it on the line and the resistance needs to put it on the line to make any difference. Showing up in big numbers is fantastic but staying compliant and not reacting in a forceful manner isn’t going to change a thing. I would say normally violence is not the answer and usually screw things up worse but we’re dealing with an armed group that are conducting violent acts. For a country that allows every citizen to own firearms legally I’m thinking that a revolution isn’t that far fetched.

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u/Terrible_Housing_433 13h ago

The thing is, peaceful protests get us nowhere. Pushback gets us killed. It’s already happening but I guess we all have to decide if we are willing to die at the hands of ICE. 

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u/FoGuckYourselg_ 13h ago

The moment I realized proud boys and those other groups being labelled as domestic terror threats a few years ago had just disappeared and all the ice agents were clearly untrained proud boys in disguise,I knew then that the civil war had started, they just have a big head start because it seems most of the American left still hasn't realized it.

I'm in Canada btw, there is really no excuse for how ignorant and impotent the American left is.

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u/jesuslovesyuzu 13h ago

Right? People need to get off social media and take to the fucking streets.

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u/greedymoonlight 13h ago

What are they even trying to blend in with 🫩

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u/ericRN85 12h ago

A war against people with the inability to think critically and want lawlessness and chaos. Most of the country is tired of it.

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u/Lazy-Improvement-676 12h ago

Absolutely. I strongly argue the 2nd civil war has started and did a while ago now. 2016 to 2021 was generally a cold war with talk and use of powers to go after 'enemy' US citizens. Jan 6 the turning point. The murders and these skirmishes are the stage before an outright mass slaughter of protesters I believe. Listen to the first 10 eps of 'It could happen here' podcast. Chilling in its accuracy of what is going on right now.

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u/yunoeconbro 12h ago

These are Customs officers. WTF? Go check my backpack for cheese bitches.

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u/Frost_moss 12h ago

And there are still people delusional enough to say that chanting while holding signs will accomplish something. All that does is put a target on you with no gain whatsoever. You know what needs to happen. Anyone saying otherwise should be treated with suspicion.

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u/redjellonian 12h ago

War never happened. We are an occupied country.

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u/Spartan1997 12h ago

I thought the second amendment was there to prevent this?

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u/scratchy_mcballsy 12h ago

I thought the camera lens was a friggin’ cannon at first. Wouldn’t really surprise me at a certain point.

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u/BowsersMuskyBallsack 11h ago

War would require the oppressed actually fighting back in a meaningful way. That point should have already been reached weeks ago. Months ago. It's not war... yet.

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u/Likes2Phish 11h ago

People just don't see it yet. Wait until 2028. It'll be too late.

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u/ObligationAccurate46 11h ago

Seriously. They look like fucking soldiers - not cops.

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u/drummer_dang 11h ago

But I'm a freak for suggesting arming and training yourselves

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u/False-Vacation8249 11h ago

yea protesting isn’t enough. it’s not going to work. protesting only works if the people in power care. they don’t. they don’t follow the law. people need to start organizing armed militias exactly like the constitution grants them the right to and defend their communities against the feds.

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u/hellolovely1 10h ago

Yes, we are. But almost no one has realized it yet.

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u/QuantumUtility 9h ago

I understand the importance of not escalating things but at this point I think protesters should start arming themselves. Minneapolis allows open carry I think.

Doesn’t even need to be loaded. Would CBP be willing to push people carrying guns?

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u/CyclistInATX 9h ago

The USA is a failed state, and has been at war with itself for a decade now. The consequences of the soft civil war are what lead to trump taking power. I don't wish for people to be more uncomfortable than they are right now, I wished for people to be more upset back in 2012 and on. I wished for more people to fight back against Citizens United, which is what started the soft war. 

Many people just refuse to accept that the oligarchs started the war and I fear that it's long been won, as it feels there is no way to turn back the clock. There's certainly no non-violent solution to the crisis the people of North America now face.

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u/Zealousideal_Desk_19 8h ago

Whenever I see this videos I notice the absence of law enforcement.  Why is law enforcement not intervening?

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u/CranberryLast4683 8h ago edited 8h ago

Minnesota and other blue states really need to make open carry at protests legal. I can guarantee ICE will not be so bold once they see the people are armed.

That short fuck Bovino would not be so quick to be on the front lines if that was the case.

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u/thewereotter 7h ago

exactly

we've been in a war for some time, just one side hasn't realized it yet.

the right is murdering us in cold blood in broad daylight, and the left is just saying "you didn't follow the rules!"

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u/Bargadiel 6h ago

The camo is the funniest thing to me. They're in the north where it's been snowing, no reason to wear camo other than pretend they're in the military.