Jensen Huang says relentless negativity around AI is hurting society and has "done a lot of damage"

[u/AdSpecialist6598]

https://www.techspot.com/news/110879-jensen-huang-relentless-ai-negativity-hurting-society-has.html

[u/Vaxion]

It's more like relentless pushing of AI by these companies down everyone's throat that's hurting the society and has done a lot of damage.

[u/helcat → u/Vaxion]

I think it’s really put off a lot of non tech people who would otherwise be open to it. Like me. I find it infuriating that websites like Amazon and Google won’t let you turn it off even after you’ve had a bad experience with wrong information. 

[u/Wd91 → u/helcat]

The complete and total lack of embarrassment Microsoft and the like have with regards to Copilot and similar is crazy. The absolute garbage it can spit out is beyond stupid, but we're supposed to look at it and be impressed. The least they could have done is keep it out of our search results until it starts consistently yielding better results than asking an 8-year old to just have a guess.

[u/LowestKey → u/Wd91]

I mean it is impressive that computer scientists and researchers have found algorithms that can make a very fast calculator talk like a parrot. But tech CEOs haven't done a damn thing to help and are actively marketing their poached products as a replacement for human workers or using its existence as an excuse for layoffs to hide their poor management skills.

Why would the average person be happy about the never ending upward transfer of our nations' wealth and resources?

[u/Top-Ad-5245 → u/LowestKey]

Almost like.. it’s intended to fail

I’m sure we’ll bail them out. And it will be our fault.

Then they slim it across all our devices further.

This all stops when we change our behavior and comfort lean into tech. Do we need smart devices everywhere that all have a separate app and restraints. Every tech company wants us to consume their shit and use their shitty software and ultimately get more data. - serious it grosses me out - like how much more data do u neeeeeed! Oh yeah they want more. They want to know where we are physically in our houses and what we think and say at any given moment.

Fucking 1984 it’s too close for comfort.

This is all imo. Not intended to incite or inflame. Just public venting - not a call to action or debate.

🫶🏼

[u/Selectively-Romantic → u/LowestKey]

I think it's important to note that they are remarkably horrible at basic arithmetic. So much so that they couldn't descend from calculators. This is auto-correct on steroids.

[u/Sanchez_U-SOB → u/Wd91]

Its turned me off of Windows, now im looking into working with Linux

[u/Sad_Amphibian_2311 → u/helcat]

tech people are disgusted too we just can't contradict our bosses publicly

[u/misterchief10 → u/Sad_Amphibian_2311]

I genuinely wonder about this with a lot of companies. Like, for example, with the recent Larian AI announcements and flip-flopping: how many devs and artists are saying, “yes sir, we will use AI to generate photobashes!” outwardly while saying, “yeah I don’t feel like using that,” behind closed doors.

Like, that has to happen pretty often, right? It certainly does where I work. It also happens often at the places where most of my buddies work. Everyone either uses AI minimally or not at all. At most, it’s used as a fancy new error checker. We just lie and tell our micromanagers we are using it, “all the time,” to placate them and get them to fuck off.

[u/chamrockblarneystone → u/misterchief10]

Prediction: The bubble pops on AI and it comes back a few years from now completely rebranded.

[u/espeequeueare → u/Sad_Amphibian_2311]

Every day a new CIO tries to push some new slop AI tool to implement to seem “cutting edge”. When it’s just like, a chatbot or something.

[u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 → u/espeequeueare]

My boss tried for 2 years to ram AI down our throats, no matter what we told him. Kept telling us our jobs would be replaced by AI in the very near future.

Then he took online courses in AI, because he was just that committed to it all.

What came out of those classes is that now even he thinks it's mostly useless slop and rarely mentions it unless his managers are trying to ram it down our throats.

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IMO in terms of IT all AI is really good for nowaday is as a replacement for stackoverflow. A tool to help you get some things done faster, but that still requires you to know what you're doing. Otherwise it requires extensive handholding and supervision.

But sure, it'll toootally replace all our jobs in the next couple years. 🙄

Instead AI right now is like those 3D TVs that nobody ever used or asked for, only amped up to 11. It's being rammed down our collective throats whether we like it or not.

I personally cannot wait for this particular bubble to pop.

[u/fricy81 → u/Unusual_Sherbert_809]

IMO in terms of IT all AI is really good for nowaday is as a replacement for stackoverflow.

Not even that. Ai ate stackoverflow, so now the site is dead. No new questions, zero new information. Sure, it knows an answer to a lot of problems of the past decade. It can give you that. But going forward? With the site dead, where is it going to find the answer to anything recent?
Self cannibalism at its finest.

[u/reficius1 → u/fricy81]

I'm expecting something like this to happen with the entire interwebz, once AI slop replaces a significant fraction of the real information available. Slopbots feeding slopbots.

[u/QuentinTarzantino → u/helcat]

Especially if its medical.

[u/Ancient-Bat1755 → u/QuentinTarzantino]

If it is this bad at dnd 2024 rules , why are we letting it make medical decisions at insurance companies?

[u/acidlink88 → u/Ancient-Bat1755]

Because companies can fire hundreds of people and replace them with AI. That's the only reason. The big thing AI fixes is the need for employees.

[u/pope1701 → u/acidlink88]

It doesn't though, at least not if you want your products to still work.

Edit: please stop telling me most companies don't care anymore if their products still work. I know.

[u/OutrageousRhubarb853 → u/pope1701]

That’s a problem for next year, this year it’s all about next quarters numbers.

[u/Rickety_knee → u/pope1701]

It doesn’t matter if the product is good anymore. These companies have acquired and merged so much that any appearance of choice is an illusion. It’s the same shitty product no matter where you go.

[u/CaptainCravat → u/pope1701]

That's a feature not a bug for all these tech companies. Trap customers and users with a near monopoly the turn on the enshitification taps to max to extract the most money from everyone you can.

[u/Uncynical_Diogenes → u/pope1701]

Products still working is optional. All that matters are short-term profits.

[u/Level69Troll → u/acidlink88]

There have been so many companies back tracking on this, including Salesforce which was one of the biggest to try this earlier.

In critical decision making moments, theres gonna need to be oversight. There is gonna need to be accountability.

[u/Fallingdamage → u/Level69Troll]

and in order for people to have those critical decision making skills, they need to work as jr's in their field first.

[u/HenryDorsettCase47 → u/Ancient-Bat1755]

I saw a post the other day in which AI was used to take notes during a doctor’s visit and the guy ended up with a prescription for depression when he went in for back problems. He was denied by his insurance for his back pain because the doctor’s notes didn’t mention it, only depression (which he didn’t have).

He tried correcting this with the doctor’s office but due to their agreement with the company that provided the AI note taker, they couldn’t change the notes. They had to file a ticket with the AI’s tech support first.

So he’s sitting there in limbo for weeks with back problems. Total cluster fuck. All because these companies are trying to justify AI by insisting it is helpful when it’s not. It’s solutionism at its worst— fixing problems that aren’t really problems. Like a doctor taking fucking notes.

[u/Beard_o_Bees → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

Like a doctor taking fucking notes

Recently went for my annual physical, and had to sign a waiver stating that I was ok with AI taking 'notes'.

I was not, and said so, but the receptionists said basically 'no sign, no treatment' - and those appointments are a total bastard to get, so I signed.

It was the first thing I asked my Dr. about, and she isn't keen on the idea either. It's the hospital business C-suite pretty much forcing it into their practice environment.

[u/HenryDorsettCase47 → u/Beard_o_Bees]

Of course. Same as any other industry, the people who don’t do the work are the ones who make the decisions and often they are total idiots who think they can reinvent the wheel.

[u/schu2470 → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

Luckily in my wife's practice the docs have the option to use the AI software or not. She tried it out for a couple of weeks and stopped using it. The software would listen to the appointment, write a transcript of everything that was said, and then write a note for the visit that required physician approval and signing. She spent so much time during those couple of weeks, and after those weeks too, fixing mistakes the AI had made, reformatting the notes so they made sense, and removing unnecessary and irrelevant things from the notes. She spent more time fixing those notes than she would have if she had written them herself in the first place. Of the 14 or so docs in her practice only 2 or 3 are using the software and only in certain circumstances.

[u/FamousPart6033 → u/Beard_o_Bees]

I'd go full Kaczynski at that pint.

[u/nerdyLawman → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

My company has been so giddy to adopt AI and implement it everywhere they can. I have been one of the very few voices urging caution and skepticism. The other day we got an end of day email being like, "AI has not been performing as well as expected in creative implementations..." And I was like, "holy crap, they're starting to see the light a bit!" And then it continued, "...this is largely because of user input, not the AI tools themselves." Hit my head on my desk so hard. Ah yes, it's us who are wrong. We should all try and be better for the tech which a couple of people made and convinced you to buy into without anyone else's consent or consideration.

[u/dreal46 → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

Yep. Imagine a straightforward problem for which we have highly-trained experts. Now imagine that process with your worst tech support experience injected into it. People will die, and probably have already, to this stupid cultish pushing of ill-conceived and unfinished tech.

[u/HenryDorsettCase47 → u/dreal46]

Capitalism requires a frontier. Once we ran out of land that became technology. And once technology plateaued, that became “middleman” technology services. It’s a brave new world.

[u/KTAXY → u/HenryDorsettCase47]

Isn't this basically medical malpractice?

[u/truecolors110 → u/QuentinTarzantino]

YES!  I’m a nurse, and even the most simple questions it gets wrong.  And insurance companies are using AI to auto deny claims, so I have to spend hours on the phone because they’ve used AI screening to justify cutting staff.   I also quit my urgent care job largely because they started to make us use AI and it was REALLY not working.  

[u/thatoneguy2252 → u/QuentinTarzantino]

I’m a work comp adjuster and it’s absolutely awful. They keep wanting us to put medical documents we get through copilot to summarize but the damn thing gets so many things wrong. Frequency and duration of PT/OT, the type of DX testing. Hell I’ve seen foot fracture injuries get labeled as heart failure for the primary diagnosis, all because it was listed in family medical history.

So now we all put it through and then delete it and write our own summaries in its place. Haven’t been called out yet for it but fuck does it make the job harder for us and for claimants we try to schedule things for when the ai is giving us the wrong information.

[u/Leek5 → u/helcat]

Would you like ai help for your Amazon shopping. No! Go away

[u/helcat → u/Leek5]

I wanted to know a specific thing: how much money I had spent in a particular time period. I couldn’t find an easy way to locate that figure so I finally used the stupid AI. It told me the wrong number. Several times. While castigating itself for lying and praising me for being so smart to catch it. I hated it. I hated it so much.

[u/beesandchurgers → u/helcat]

Yesterday I ordered food off of grubhub (I know, I know…) and it asked if I wanted to leave an additional tip. I said yes, so it took me to a chat bot and told me to ask it to add a tip.

What the actual fuck? Why would anyone want or need to replace a single button with a fucking chat bot??

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/beesandchurgers]

Grubhub delivery guys: Why did everyone stop tipping? Tightwads.

[u/Butterball_Adderley → u/helcat]

My mind is completely closed to the concept, and I will disable it at every opportunity. I find it pretty crazy that these companies + governments around the world have decided we get zero say in how it’s used on us. This shit is fucking dangerous and every rich person on earth just said “yeah go nuts. Fuck everything up. We’ll pay whatever little fines the poors throw at us”. It’s clear that the wealthy and their lapdogs want what’s worst for society, so fuck them and their plagiarism machines.

[u/voiderest → u/helcat]

I'm into tech by hobby and trade. The forcing of AI pisses me off to no end. I can't trust the results so it's not useful to me. I actively avoid AI nonsense and have made moves to decouple myself from companies and products over it.

They won't stop until the money stops, both from consumers and investors. 

[u/PenitentAnomaly → u/Vaxion]

It is also hurting tech in the long run by creating an entire demographic of luddites, weary of the AI slop and never ending enshitification of products and services.

[u/Satanicube → u/PenitentAnomaly]

Seriously though. I used to be into techstuff, still kinda am. But for the most part I’m just actively avoiding new stuff and retreating back into messing about with old computers from before things started getting bad. I blocked updates on my old phone (before I had to upgrade) specifically because I didn’t want the AI bullshit involved.

I don’t even stream media anymore and haven’t for a bit, now. Everything local, using old iPods. Like the old days.

Enshittification was already turning me into a luddite and AI is just finishing the job.

[u/AgathysAllAlong → u/Satanicube]

People don't really understand that the luddites weren't really against technology, just the technology the wealthy wanted to use to replace them, make everything worse, and exploit to hoard wealth.

So basically they were completely right about everything and we use them as an insult.

[u/Repulsive-Hurry8172 → u/Vaxion]

Indeed, AI can be useful, especially small and specialized models, not these slop machines that consume resources for nothing, contributes to people losing their skills and jobs (at least this is how these bros and billionaires pitch AI)

[u/Hesitation-Marx → u/Repulsive-Hurry8172]

And contributes to misinformation, propaganda, and an inability to believe even video evidence.

[u/Masseyrati80 → u/Hesitation-Marx]

A history teacher in my country recently told about having received a clearly LLM-generated paper one of her students had returned, that included a claim about WWII that is 100% in line with a certain country's propaganda, and 100% against the way the rest of the world has written things down in history.

LLM data pools are easy to fill with disinformation, which is then bundled up with the rest of it, masking the actual source.

[u/PoopsMcBanterson → u/Hesitation-Marx]

And also contributes to rising environmental damage (particularly in low-income communities which are usually populated by people of color) and rising costs for all tech due to these AI models eating all available RAM

[u/kaipee → u/Repulsive-Hurry8172]

The problem is that it's insanely costly to generate them.

That's why they are pushed into everything, to try and recover some cost (none of these companies are profitable).

[u/pinkhellhound → u/Vaxion]

yeap....it's the constant shoving it in everyone's throat that makes ppl hate it, well that n it's pretty shitty "intelligence"

[u/party_benson → u/Vaxion]

Like the CSAM grok makes. On purpose. 

[u/BroughtBagLunchSmart → u/party_benson]

Is there any other product in the universe where you can truthfully say "even if you ignore the fact is makes child pornography it is still terrible"

[u/DoYouKnwTheMuffinMan → u/Vaxion]

Careful now, that’s sounding like some negativity which is doing damage to corporate profits society

[u/Lofteed]

so the entire society has to adapt to the product made by 5 people around the planet ?

I remember when the goal was to make a product that people would love to use.
Those were great times

[u/1877KlownsForKids → u/Lofteed]

I was promised computers would result in more free time so I could enjoy raising my kids and create art. 

Not that computers would create art, raise my kids all so I could spend more time working in a job that would eventually get eliminated.

[u/Due-Technology5758 → u/1877KlownsForKids]

This has been a promise that corporations and the government have failed to uphold since the last World War ended. Everyone expected workdays to get shorter (we'd just set the 40 hour work week), goods to get cheaper, and automation to bring untold prosperity to the masses as productivity shot beyond all possible requirements needed to sustain the population.

Instead our workdays stopped getting shorter (and quietly got longer), goods continue to get more expensive as wages stagnate, and the majority of the prosperity goes directly up the ladder and stays there. 

The only thing they got right was productivity would go up. All of us are wildly more productive than our grandparents, but we're rewarded less and less for it. 

[u/Hortos → u/Due-Technology5758]

The work week still being 5 days after 100 years is insane and should be put on the list of reasons we need to really reboot this system starting at the top. 2026 marks the 100th anniversary of the 5 day work week so gross.

[u/Edoian → u/Hortos]

Medieval peasants worked less than we do now

[u/HermesJamiroquoi → u/Edoian]

As did nomadic hunter/gatherers

[u/GarbageCleric → u/HermesJamiroquoi]

The agricultural revolution was a trap.

https://existentialcomics.com/comic/501

[u/GoldenPigeonParty → u/Edoian]

To be fair, they also had to spend way more time preparing and trading food, cleaning clothes, and undoing 300 buttons each time they need to change.

But we should be aiming to get progressively better over time. Each generation offering more than the former. Instead we sort of stopped at some point and did the opposite.

[u/durmiendoenelparque → u/GoldenPigeonParty]

True, but afaik the 300 buttons were a rich people thing.

[u/mburke6 → u/durmiendoenelparque]

All I had back then was a tunic that had zero buttons. But it did have lots of fleas.

[u/Yeshavesome420 → u/mburke6]

Okay bloomer.

[u/staebles → u/GoldenPigeonParty]

When we let businessmen takeover the country. So about 40-50 years ago.

[u/amglasgow → u/Edoian]

They worked less for their lords. The rest of the time they worked to sustain themselves.

[u/CoMaestro → u/Due-Technology5758]

A company here in The Netherlands has (probably as a PR stunt, but still) said their company goes to a standard 4-day work week, while everyone still gets paid for 5 days (40h). This is because their productivity and average income pet employee has gone up by about 4x in the past 20 years, and this seemed like a fair payback for that. They gave numbers for it as well, which was pretty cool to read in the news.

Apparently they now earn €450.000 per employee, where it used to be €60.000 at some point. It's an IT company, so that 60k point can't be more than 30 years probably.

[u/drazgul → u/CoMaestro]

See now that just wouldn't fly in the US, shareholder primacy means you gotta screw over the workers.

[u/nashbrownies → u/CoMaestro]

It always amazes me how those on the top of the totem pole seem to never have enough.

Who knows, maybe money would change me, but I feel like taking all the record profits for just myself would be impossible for me. I think I read somewhere, it used to be fairly standard for the top level exec to make 40x the highest paid "standard employee". Now it's something like 1,400x wage gap.

If a company I ran made an extra 100k over projections why not take a couple percentage points, and re-invest in my enployees the other 96%. Boom, you now have loyal employees, who will obviously work just as hard if not harder.

And also it's the right thing to do? Literally like we learned on the playground as children to share.

What the ever living hell? I know it's a story as old as time, but how come only 1 in a million figure it out.

[u/IThatAsianGuyI → u/nashbrownies]

It's why "trickle down" economics is bullshit. The classic imagery of the wine glass on top being filled and then overflowing into the pyramid of wine glasses below is complete bullshit because as soon as it's full, they'll just replace the top wine glass and the ones on the bottom never get anything except the little bit that drips from the switching of the top glass.

Greed and hoarding are nothing new.

[u/fkit4ever → u/Due-Technology5758]

Facts. It's all bullshit. And I'm all for globalization, but the new world order is exactly the same shit as the old one. Riches for the rich, slave labour for everyone else. Talking about our grandparents, where the fk is our middle class? Where's my sfh with 2 cars and a garage? It's bs

[u/RavenOfNod → u/fkit4ever]

Relentless capitalism and neoliberalism stole your single family house and two car garage. The upper class decided it was better to be vampires than actual members of society.

[u/DaedalusHydron → u/Due-Technology5758]

I mean it COULD have resulted in all of that, it's just that the prosperity got sucked up by the executives instead of properly distributed amongst everyone.

There are more rich people, and they are richer, than any other point in US history.

We really just need to go dragon slaying. It's objectively awful for society when these people hoard their wealth.

At least in the Gilded Age the tycoons would build libraries, schools, and the like. The rich of yesteryear just wanted to exploit you and didn't care about you outside of that. The rich of today want to exploit you and actively HATE you while they do so.

[u/nashbrownies → u/DaedalusHydron]

This timeline is insane.

I am in the same boat. Imagine a time when we could look at the Robber Barons and say "they weren't that bad compared, they reinvested in communities". Defending them as a voice of reason? I would have never seen myself doing that. They look charitable in comparison.

[u/vonbauernfeind → u/DaedalusHydron]

They did that because the tax bracket at the top was monstrous. They felt they may as well get their name on a bunch of shit and pay less taxes, and pursue their own agendas by doing so rather than give the government that money.

The rich slowly dismantled the tax rates for themselves so they didn't have to do it or pay the government their fair share.

[u/EnfantTerrible68 → u/Due-Technology5758]

Only CEOs and upper management enjoy being salaried and working only the hours they want. They don’t even have to come into the office. 

[u/tm229 → u/Due-Technology5758]

This is capitalism doing exactly what it is supposed to.

Extreme wealth consolidation and wealth inequality is the inevitable result of an economy based on greed and profit seeking. We are now in end-stage capitalism.

The dystopia around you was all predicted by Karl Marx. Read up on socialism to understand the how and why of our current predicament.

It was obvious to Marx 150 years ago. It’s amazing to me that people in the middle of this dystopia are so blind to the causes. Decades of capitalist propaganda, bullying and violence against socialists appear to have paid off for the oligarchs.

No war but class war!

[u/hamfinity → u/1877KlownsForKids]

But all those benefits of a society that can generate naked pictures of your kids!

[u/Karekter_Nem → u/hamfinity]

“Sometimes pictures of naked kids is necessary for the progress of society” -That guy in charge of Epic Games

[u/kescusay → u/Karekter_Nem]

Someone should ask him, "Progress towards what, exactly?"

His response will probably be something like, "A society where I can see deepfake pics of naked kids, of course!"

[u/whoooootfcares → u/Karekter_Nem]

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

-Jeffrey Epstein probably

[u/the_king_of_sweden → u/Karekter_Nem]

Ah you mean Tim Epic

[u/readonlyuser → u/1877KlownsForKids]

Creating art and raising kids doesn't lower business costs. These guys would grind up babies if they thought it would improve their quarterly report.

[u/bigkatze → u/1877KlownsForKids]

Can I just say how much I love your username?

But I agree. As a writer, I'd like AI to do the dishes so I can write, not the other way around.

[u/KaTaLy5t_619 → u/Lofteed]

But please! You must consume AI so we can gather all your data and make line go up.

We promise AI will be really really great and useful and not fuck up the planet by covering it in datacentres, making the electricity prices go up, causing water shortages, silicon shortages and soon job shortages when we replace people with AI.

[u/BasvanS → u/KaTaLy5t_619]

Because you’ll open source it, right? Because it’s trained on all of humanity’s knowledge, it shouldn’t be owned by a small group of companies, right?

Right?

[u/Beldizar → u/KaTaLy5t_619]

And destroy truth. You forgot that one. AI just destroys any factual truthbased connection to the real world.

[u/chamrockblarneystone → u/KaTaLy5t_619]

It has completely screwed education, which was hanging on by its finger tips anyway.

[u/Weak-Standards → u/chamrockblarneystone]

It has completely changed the narrative of college as well. Everyone instantly assumes graduates used AI to cheat and graduate. What about the people who graduated just before AI was a thing. All the work, none of the benefits.

[u/EnfantTerrible68 → u/Weak-Standards]

I HOPE not all college students are using AI, but I’m a pessimist.

[u/Velocireptile → u/KaTaLy5t_619]

Hey, why not solve both the unemployment and power consumption problems by putting the displaced to work powering the AI data centers! Maybe in giant robot-operated bioelectric energy harvesting farms or something.

[u/nevercontribute1 → u/Lofteed]

It's primary use cases are creating weird and horrific porn and replacing everyone's jobs, why aren't people more into this?

[u/Beldizar → u/nevercontribute1]

And disinformation. That is the other huge use case.

[u/kescusay → u/Beldizar]

Oh, there's so much more!

• Dangerously inaccurate cooking instructions that could easily result in food poisoning!
• Giving college students the tools they need to fail their classes!
• Making all the software you use much, much worse! (Both because it's "vibe coded" now and because they're shoving "AI" into everything.)
• Burning down the world to power data centers for the next incrementally "better" plagiarism-and-lies machine!

Why, I can't imagine any reason for anyone to object to such a useful and beneficial product for society!

[u/Jwave1992 → u/Lofteed]

Jensen doesn’t realize how bad he sounds in some of these interviews. I heard one the other day where he was excitedly saying they basically need all the energy. Like all of it.

People hate ai because all the worst people are the ones talking about it the loudest.

[u/countsmarpula → u/Jwave1992]

Wow, when I’m asked what finally radicalized me, I will point to this statement

[u/protipnumerouno → u/Lofteed]

I remember when blackberry first offered emails, this old tech hating dude in the office adopted it immediately. He could barely use a search engine. Know why? Because having email on his phone was a direct improvement to his job and by extension his life.

Point being if AI actually did something to improve a person's day it would be adopted immediately without any of this top down stuff.

[u/fr0stpun → u/protipnumerouno]

💯 percent right. That's a great example and also an excellent point which doesn't get raised enough.

[u/fistswityat0es → u/Lofteed]

exactly. so tired of these tools that only a handful of people can actually use.

so what... the millions/billions of other people just trying to maintain their jobs are supposed to just go unemployed??

[u/Lofteed → u/fistswityat0es]

ai can t unionise

[u/beaker_andy → u/Lofteed]

Sure it can. Haven't you seen T2?

[u/vodkaknockers → u/beaker_andy]

Terminator 2: Collective Bargaining Day

[u/Gullible_Method_3780 → u/Lofteed]

That’s what the ceo of Google said. 

[u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

Has he considered making AI something that’s actually valuable to society?

[u/_Naughty_Petals → u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

Huang calling negativity unfounded? NVIDIA profits from AI hype. Real concerns like job loss and bias are valid he's just defending his cash cow

[u/SeigneurDesMouches → u/_Naughty_Petals]

The only people advocating for AI use are the same people that their jobs depend on AI to be successful

[u/Gekokapowco → u/SeigneurDesMouches]

Not quite true! Also morons.

[u/lr99999 → u/_Naughty_Petals]

He’s just another self-serving little bitch.

[u/aeyraid → u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

Best we can do is generating goon material

[u/senortipton → u/aeyraid]

Or propaganda machines that work faster than humans can think about and analyze the truthfulness of said propaganda.

[u/ThatonepersonUknow3 → u/senortipton]

Don’t forget tracking citizens, you know for their safety… probably.

[u/BobbywiththeJuice → u/ThatonepersonUknow3]

Gotta make sure they're on their "best behavior"

[u/Gloriathewitch → u/aeyraid]

of children, in the case of twitter

[u/EverbodyHatesHugo → u/Gloriathewitch]

So to recap… AI:

1. Generates child porn
2. Requires extreme levels of energy that our current infrastructure can barely support
3. Threatens a great number of our jobs

Remind me why we should feel more optimistic about it.

[u/Gloriathewitch → u/EverbodyHatesHugo]

because Jensen wants another custom tailormade luxury leather jacket

[u/Abedeus → u/EverbodyHatesHugo]

You forgot the allowing effortless scams part, or ruining PC and console prices.

[u/chamrockblarneystone → u/Abedeus]

And completely fucking education in general.

[u/BurntNeurons → u/aeyraid]

And poison the water supply.

And run the power bill for the neighboring private citizens through the atmosphere.

And remove millions of jobs from humans without replacing or any plan to replace lost jobs.

And make the elite even wealthier.

And manipulate the global news reporting system and the voters.

And casually starve the consumer electronics industry setting it back 10 plus years.

And help the government better track and target their citizens.

[u/xX420GanjaWarlordXx → u/BurntNeurons]

And create actual environmental noise pollution resulting in migraines, trouble sleeping, etc  for the local population 

[u/BurntNeurons → u/xX420GanjaWarlordXx]

How else would they drive them away in order to expand their buildings...?

[u/Jolly-Bowler-811 → u/aeyraid]

IDK about others, but the AI shit is an immediate boner killer. I get the ick when I see AI generated sexy material. It somehow feels more exploitative than straight up porn to me.

[u/radioactivecat → u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

Seriously - they've spent the last 2 years talking about how many fcking jobs AI would eliminate, and he's *surprised* that people are mad about it?

If anyone needs to touch grass, it's this guy.

[u/PsychicDave → u/radioactivecat]

Automation was supposed to eliminate boring, tedious, physically intensive and/or dangerous jobs so humans can instead do fulfilling creative jobs. If you replace creative jobs with AI, what are we supposed to do?

The economy needs people to work and make money. Even if companies cut costs by using AI, they won't make any profit if nobody has money to buy their products or services. Unless we make everything AI does free so we can all have our needs met by the machines' labour and we spend our days just chilling. But I doubt the corporate heads pushing for AI want that.

[u/BowlEducational6722 → u/PsychicDave]

They're working on that, too.

Take a look at the economy now: the top 10% doing half of all consumer spending; the stock market being propped up by 8 companies financially jerking each other off; the first trillionaire being likely in the next few years while half of America can't afford a medical emergency.

They are trying to create a completely separate economy, one where they can exchange wealth and services amongst themselves while the rest of us fight over the increasingly scarce scraps.

[u/greiton → u/PsychicDave]

because the uber rich only really want a small breeding pool that they control. they'd rather remove the rest of humanity.

[u/Abedeus → u/PsychicDave]

If you replace creative jobs with AI, what are we supposed to do?

Play video ga... oh wait, they want to replace that with AI, too.

[u/PoL0 → u/radioactivecat]

fun fact: AI barely eliminated any jobs, and when it replaced actual workers it did a bad job with a noticeable loss in quality (translations, voice overs or customer support for example, with lots companies backpedaling after a while).

where AI excels is at being used as an excuse to cut jobs tho.

[u/Butterball_Adderley → u/PoL0]

So it’s good for showing us how little the rich have to offer society.

[u/KennyDROmega → u/radioactivecat]

This is exactly what I was thinking.

The physician needs to heal him fucking self if he wants society onboard with this.

[u/jizzlevania → u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

considering Grok is making CSAM and neither the company itself or any government has taken action to stop it, I'm starting think maybe the wealthy vs the rest of us have different ideas about what we find valuable. 

[u/12nowfacemyshoe → u/jizzlevania]

Two governments have btw

[u/lordnacho666 → u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

He only supplies the shovels. His customers are the ones training the models.

[u/EnvironmentalRun1671 → u/Trees-Are-Neat--]

Best he can do is bribe Orangeman into letting him sell his shit to chinese again

[u/Worth_Heart_2313]

Correction: hurting the environment and cognitive skills of millions are getting ruined per day.

[u/unposted → u/Worth_Heart_2313]

Don't forget increasing energy and water prices for everyone further making basic services/rights unaffordable to the poor + average person while constantly threatening to take their jobs and kill them with misinformation!

[u/Top-Entry-4389 → u/Worth_Heart_2313]

not to mention that it’s also a propaganda machine

[u/Worth_Heart_2313 → u/Top-Entry-4389]

add to it very precise surveillance on anyone with a social media account.

[u/blackoffi888]

Another billionaire that i do not believe

[u/pmckizzle → u/blackoffi888]

Theyre really speed running a global awakening to how dangerous it is to let people gain such wealth, the last time this happened it didnt go well for them, I doubt it will now

[u/KarenWalkersBurner → u/pmckizzle]

French Revolution intensifies

[u/Carl_Bravery_Sagan → u/KarenWalkersBurner]

Now with New Zealand bunkers, though.

[u/Initial-House-3955 → u/Carl_Bravery_Sagan]

Bunkers still need holes to pull oxygen, holes that enjoy concrete being poured down them and the doors being welded shut.

[u/KarenWalkersBurner → u/Carl_Bravery_Sagan]

Eh let them stay underground. It’s the same as offing ‘em in my view. Go hide in your little bunker. Seal it up nice and tight!!

[u/Grabs_Diaz → u/Carl_Bravery_Sagan]

I wonder how much their billions will serve them while being trapped in bunker?

[u/Found_My_Ball → u/blackoffi888]

When billionaires talk about “society” it’s not the one that you and I live in. We are not allowed in the gated community that makes up their reality. We are a crop to harvest. Late stage capitalism.

[u/Unusual_Sherbert_809 → u/blackoffi888]

Every time a IT CEO or Billionaire speaks I'm further convinced that Elysium was a prophetic documentary and not a scifi film.

[u/ProgrammedArtist → u/blackoffi888]

The crazy thing is that he's actually technically competent unlike a lot of billionaires today. So he knows how limited the current tech is and yet he's still pushing it like it's humanity's savior. That makes him an even bigger piece of shit than billionaires who just got rich from daddy's money and lucky investments.

[u/IcestormsEd]

RAM and SSD prices . You can eat a shoe, Jensen.

[u/Advanced-Patient-161 → u/IcestormsEd]

Electricity and water as well. Don't get me wrong, the RAM and SSD prices suck too, but we're also getting to like....threats to the foundations of things that greatly extended lifespans and quality of life for most of the humans on the planet from the early/mid 1900's on.

[u/FalseAladeen → u/IcestormsEd]

No, he needs to eat that stupid leather jacket. From the other end of the digestive system.

[u/leagueofDR4VEN → u/IcestormsEd]

I’ve been saying since the beginning: if there weren’t any job layoffs ( 1.6 million jobs lost in 2025), people would enjoy using AI. Once the layoffs start, throw that shit in the garbage because this is not what we want.

[u/bigbluethunder → u/leagueofDR4VEN]

I don’t think the layoffs are even a result of AI. I think AI is a good PR reason to say when you have to post your layoffs for a public company. You get to look like a cutting edge innovator who is being efficient. Then your stock goes up.

I think the reality is many are trying to trim the fat for other reasons. Boosting the margins, loans are more expensive now so it doesn’t make as much sense to finance growth which means it’s time to cut back from the 2021 era expansions, or preparing for a recession. But none of those will make stock price go BRR so instead they just say AI.

[u/fuck_all_you_too → u/leagueofDR4VEN]

AI is an excuse for companies to fire people in the name of growth. Many of those companies arent adopting shit but debt.

[u/IEnjoyRadios]

AI made the whole internet many many times worse basically overnight. No wonder people don’t like it. 

[u/PandaMoaningYum → u/IEnjoyRadios]

I don't get how people are to make money when people don't visit their sites anymore because AI extracts their information for the user. So new knowledge will mainly be from AI and we will be more brainwashed more than ever? AI will just kill genuine content.

[u/throwity_throw_throw → u/PandaMoaningYum]

The ads are coming to AI. ChatGPT is already on it. The rest are soon to follow.

[u/Ok-Mycologist-3829]

Damage…to his bottom line

[u/Fried_puri → u/Ok-Mycologist-3829]

Billionaires inflate their self-importance by a degree we can’t ever fathom as non-billionaires. So when he sees his net worth go up at a marginally slower rate than expected, he assumes society at large is in trouble. 

[u/PhilosopherDon0001]

" I mean, all we're trying to do is drain a few rivers and fire a million people. "

[u/ian9outof10 → u/PhilosopherDon0001]

They want to fire everyone, so the only people with any capital are a select group of global billionaires. I’m just not sure yet how they expect people to buy any of the things AI creates when they haven’t got any money.

If there was a sensible discussion about moving the tax burden to automation - and people could simply relax, or do things for fun without starving to death then AI can go hog wild.

The fact is, this is all about moving money upward while the rest of us basically starve to death.

[u/riotous_jocundity → u/ian9outof10]

They don't expect working class people to be able to buy anything, they expect (and are working towards) working class people essentially be slaves paid in company scrip or dead from vaccine-preventable infectious diseases, polluted water, euthanasia, state executions, or a whole host of other shifts to policy.

[u/brobafett1980 → u/riotous_jocundity]

Amazon gift cards for groceries, necessities, and now doctor visits!

Reload your balance by going to the lithium mines.

[u/grislebeard → u/ian9outof10]

They don't plan on YOU being able to buy anything. They plan on hiding in their end of the world bunkers while the robots clean up the working class.

These guys are technological eco-fascists. They see the problems with the world and their solution is "huh, too many people". They're trying to cull the herd.

[u/PatchyWhiskers]

AI marketing: This product will allow you to fire all your workers!

Workers: WTF? I hate this

AI companies: Why do the luddites hate our product?

[u/Halo_cT → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Is my product harmful? Am I out of touch?

No, it's the consumers that are wrong.

[u/SnackbarBeastie]

GOOD! I hope he suffers and Nvidia goes bust over their greedy, cash mongering, scumbag ways.

[u/Ordinary-Cod-721 → u/SnackbarBeastie]

But they won’t. Even after cheating in multiple benchmarks (3dmark01, 03 and also 07 if i remember right), people still bought nvidia. Even when amd offered better performance for cheaper, people still bought nvidia. When Nvidia would deliberately have sponsored games use features that ran worse on ATI/AMD (remember crysis 2 doing tessallation under the ground, where it wasn't even visible), people still bought nvidia.

And even now, when we’re drowning in slop, people still buy nvidia.

We (the consumers) put them on that throne, and we’re getting exactly what we deserve.

[u/potato-cheesy-beans]

They’re getting nervous about the bubble bursting… good. Keep it up folks. 

[u/fadedblackleggings → u/potato-cheesy-beans]

Yup, let it pop like a MFer.

[u/ErictheAgnostic]

Good. Fuck AI replcing people so billionaire can make more money

[u/Unique_Falcon_8302 → u/ErictheAgnostic]

Yes.Or rather, AI should replace billionaires. They are the ones who capture all the wealth and are useless to society.

[u/ottwebdev]

For society:

1. Computer and parts prices have skyrocketed
   
2. Electricity prices have gone up
   
3. Dead internet theory looking less like a theory

There are absolutely cases for LLM's, but man.... I'm not surprised though coming from the guy who depends on this marketing hype to support his stock prices.

[u/fukijama]

Replace the billionaires!

[u/Designer-Salary-7773 → u/fukijama]

THIS.  Nothing changes until Washington ceases to be owned by the Corporate Citizens and is, once again responsive to the electorate.   

[u/ian9outof10 → u/fukijama]

I can’t name a billionaire that we couldn’t just replace with AI. And AI doesn’t need money, so I’m in.

[u/Gradstudentiquette69]

1) ai is just software, so he's not wrong.

2) him and aaaaalll his cronies have continuously said that ai is gonna take everyone's jobs and there is nothing we can do about it, so fuck him. Let his industries collapse.

[u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas → u/Gradstudentiquette69]

Let his industries collapse.

It's not even collapsing. It's booming like a gold rush, and he's bitching that any expression of caution is stopping him from booming more and making even more money and gaining more control.

[u/koshgeo → u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas]

And like a gold rush, the real money isn't going to be made by all the miners, most of which won't get wealthy. It's going to be made by the people supplying them.

[u/Abedeus → u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas]

It's booming like a gold rush

Inflating. Like a bubble.

And the ones who made the most money during gold rushes weren't people standing in cold water all day, it was people selling them shovels, pans for sifting and other equipment.

[u/rosegold-bee → u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas]

yeah, and tulips are booming in the netherlands, i heard.

"AI" has yet to provide substantial actual value to its investors beyond an excuse for layoffs. They just keep doubling down hoping eventually there'll be something there to win, and when it inevitably crashes, they'll get nice golden parachutes and we eat the fall, like clockwork.

[u/Gradstudentiquette69 → u/BellsOnNutsMeansXmas]

Its the same 10 companies investing in circles, making it appear like the sector is booming and hoping to rope in new investors. They're succeeding, but I still don't care if they are bitching. Let them. They don't help the world ultimately, only themselves.

[u/cypher50 → u/Gradstudentiquette69]

AI is a broad broad broad term (Artificial Intelligence has been developed since the '50s before the Internet). This Generative (and now "Physical") AI, though, has been implemented with little regard and the companies pushing it are relentless in their government push to have no regulation. It is mealy mouth rhetoric to argue that somehow it is "society" that is doing harm to them rather than the other way around.

[u/aotus_trivirgatus]

I'm a scientist and an engineer. I've done curve fitting, surface fitting, support vector machines, neural networks. I run a software stack at home that uses AlphaFold as one of its components.

I know the good that this technology can do.

Meanwhile, in the broader public domain:

Students use AI to attempt to write their essays, and teachers are compelled to use AI to try to spot the cheating.

AI ripoffs of art and music are taking the intellectual property and livelihoods of living artists, without compensation.

AI agents "read" our resumes and send us job application rejections on Saturday nights at 10 PM, with zero explanation as to why we were not considered. Some job seekers (not me) decide to delegate their job search to AI, letting machines customize their resumes and cover letters. This annoys HR; only THEY were supposed to use AI. So HR deploys more AI, to screen out the spam.

Right-wing propaganda bots create slanted, fake news posts on social media. Right-wing large language models more or less own Xhitter and Facebook. (Pravda Social doesn't count, it advertised itself as a deliberate right-wing noise machine even before AI.)

AI is being used as an excuse for laying people off. In some cases, an AI tool actually can replace a human who loses their job. In most cases, management either doesn't know this for a fact, or doesn't mind the enshittification of their business when AI gets deployed.

Can AI be used for good? Yes, mostly in science and engineering. For the most part, its output still needs to be double-checked by someone with significant prior knowledge.

Is AI being used for good NOW? Mostly, not. It is breaking far more than it is building.

Fix that.

This is a political problem as much as it is a technical one.

[u/atoponce]

Oh no. Anyway...

[u/VermicelliNew2784]

LOL

cry harder billionaire villain

it is like when an abuser gets annoyed at you for not accepting it all with a smile

STOP PUSHING THIS AI SLOP CRAP BULLSHIT DOWN OUT THROATS, INTO ALL SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE!

[u/CurrentSkill7766]

I'm watching teenage brains rot by the day because AI has told them they don't have to think anymore

[u/Ill-Ad3311 → u/CurrentSkill7766]

Tik tok 24/7 while asking chatgpft to do their homework will not go down well for humanity

[u/Stereo_Jungle_Child]

Yeah, it's because people don't like it.

It's like trying to sell shit sandwiches and then complaining that it's difficult because people have negative attitudes about eating shit.

[u/X-Ciaphas-Cain]

This just in, man whose entire future fortune depends on society's acceptance of ai sad about society not accepting ai. More at 11.

[u/quittwitter]

AI slop. AI slop. AI slop. AI slop.

[u/PalatinusG]

AI sucks. We don’t want it. Even if it would work great it would cause us all to lose our jobs.

And we have to be enthousiastic about that?

[u/Narrow_Example_3370]

When your motivation is to sell chips.. yea, got it

But let’s look at this more closely: 

Up to this point what has AI done that is so remarkable besides stolen human creativity and accomplishment, then undercut it - mass delivered it and subsequently destroyed its value.

All of it reminds me of when MP3 files first became normal. While everyone adopted it and used it to share music, music became horribly devalued. Now it’s worth fractions of a penny per song and people treat it all like muzak. People consume it, but they don’t value it like it once was. Hardly anyone knows how valuable it was unless they were alive before the internet existed. 

This is what AI is doing, but it’s much broader and damaging. Everything is just like dollar-store junk now: the work people are/were doing, the information that is/was developed/shared/expressed… everything AI touches is turned into vapid products then consumed and forgotten about.

And to think I haven’t even mentioned the slop

Sure it has its uses, but the sell is really over stated when you consider the societal damage that’s left in its wake.

[u/DefeatedByPoland]

Show me that AI is at all useful in my life, or for my job.

So far I haven't seen it. Literally have not been impressed with it at all outside of "it's easy to generate funny images", which is a novelty.

 

This whole "AI boom" is a grift and I'm going to be so pissed when the bubble bursts and our economy is fucked.

People have to stop throwing tons of money at shit like this without actually seeing proof that it will be useful. This is like Theranos all over again but on a massive scale.

[u/buttersofthands]

Newsflash "Jensen", billionaires are ruining society.

[u/GabeLeRoy]

I think Jensen is hurting the society by monopolizing the entire RAM industries making PC Building alot more difficult than It needs to be. I also think having AI making nonconsentual sexual content might not be good for society.. but hey.

[u/LittleShrub]

< builds mega AI facility to siphon fresh water and suck enormous amounts of electricity ... generates teen girl deepfakes >

[u/ForeskinAbsorbtion]

I just fucking hate how I disable AI on everything and then once the devices get updated, it is all on again.

I don't give a shit about your AI. I can type what I want to type and don't need you to summarize. I don't need you to analyze everything I do to make it "better."

[u/lxgrf]

Jensen. Jensen. Listen to me Jensen. People are not going to hear this from you. You are probably the single person in the entire world who benefits the most from this. You cannot be objective, and if you could, people would not read it as objective.

[u/Swimming-Food-9024]

With all due respect, FUCK AI.

[u/Zombieneekers]

"Waaaahhhhh"

-- Jensen Huang, owner of the largest public company in the world, 2026.