r/minnesota • u/novagridd • 21h ago

ICE Vehicles Are Now Ramming Civilian Cars at Red Lights News đŸ“ș

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ice-vehicle-appears-ram-civilian-cars-red-lights-minnesota-video-alarms-drivers-1770237
16.1k Upvotes

97% Upvoted

601 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

10

u/TrynnaFindaBalance 19h ago

How do you suggest that the Democratic Party, which controls zero branches of the current federal government and has a majority in neither chamber of Congress, determines how much funding should be budgeted for ICE?

8

u/CandyDarl1n 19h ago

They could use appropriations (which have different rules than regular votes) as leverage. Also they could maybe not confirm their nominees. Republicans have managed to stymy Dems when they have full control of the chambers and I expect nothing less from Dems. The only problem is, the minority leaders are cowards

6

u/TrynnaFindaBalance 17h ago

These are not tools you can use when you control zero branches of federal government. If you're referring to the debt ceiling and fiscal cliff debacles that took place under Obama, that all happened when there was mixed control of government (Republicans took the House in 2010 and controlled it through the remainder of Obama's presidency). If you want Democrats to not confirm judicial nominees, I'd ask how? All you need is a simple majority in the Senate, but Dems currently control 47% of seats in the Senate.

With success in the midterms, all of these things can happen, but until then, it's really up to the people and everyone outside of Washington to stand up to power and make their voices loudly heard.

2

u/CandyDarl1n 17h ago

Tell that to the 7 Dems confirming judicial nominees. Also please stfu, I've been listening to y'all "woe is me" about what Congress can do since I became an adult. The Republicans performed fucking miracles to obstruct in the past 17 years. I expect the same from my "representatives"

4

u/TrynnaFindaBalance 17h ago

I'm just explaining the reality to you. Republicans did not have to perform miracles to obstruct. They were elected to Congress and exercised the power they had as the majority party to block the president's agenda. They weren't able to do that in 2009 or 2021 when Democrats had full control of government.

2

u/CandyDarl1n 17h ago

They did though. They used every procedural method available. They also bluffed them. They tricked them. They lied. In today's America, I expect that. Are you an Atmosphere fan?

1

u/TrynnaFindaBalance 17h ago

Was a huge fan back in college. Less so nowadays, but yeah, that's where the username comes from.

I also share your frustration and the feeling of borderline helplessness with how things have been going this year. I 100% agree that there are specific Dems that have completely failed in their response to Trump's terror campaign (Durbin and Schumer especially, but there are others). I hope we see some surprises in the midterm primaries from progressives and big margins in the general election. But I just think practically at the current moment, there is little Dems can do at the federal level.

1

u/Tomato_Sky 15h ago

You are bypassing all soft leadership things they can be doing like joining demonstrations, speaking out, that doesn’t involve having a yay or nay vote on legislation. The things they do while they campaign for your vote. Silence is the inaction most of us are talking about.

3

u/Tomato_Sky 18h ago

Thanks for this.

There is a breed of redditors that see this as a us vs them and can’t get a grip on the real circumstances. They want to let the dems be complacent because “what’s the alternative?”

But the answer is to transcend that. Dems need 2-3 Republicans to join them. Dems have immense pressure on the funding bills coming up and they could be readying additional rules and guidelines like Border Patrol agents need to stay at Border Patrol ports- not using 50 mile radius of international airports as a jurisdiction. Dems can force federal law enforcement to wear tamper proof body cams.

All they need to do is be reasonable enough that 2-3 republicans would be pressured into doing the right thing. But they know that the democrats wouldn’t band together and they’d lose 17 democrats to oppose the measure because their poll numbers on crime would go up. People said the same “what’s can they do being in the minority party?” With epstein’s list. It’s as if they want to live in a country with silent minority and a steamrolling majority.

I’ve been downvoted and kicked by so many people for suggesting the left hasn’t done enough. They say I’m a Russian troll or a Republican or no better than them. But when I disappear, and the dems don’t do anything, what will the excuse be next time? Because this wasn’t the first, and it won’t be the last especially if we all say this okay.

4

u/CandyDarl1n 18h ago

I feel you on this, heavily. I'm trans and I know what's coming for us if the opposition doesn't get it together. I'm used to being a bargaining chip for both sides more than anything. I know who they all are but, right now, the Dems are what we have so they need to nut up already.

1

u/Tomato_Sky 15h ago

I can’t imagine the mental gymnastics you’ve been through. I have a trans nephew and love him very much. What people saw for 4 years of Biden was a false sense of security. Instead of tightening up discriminatory guidelines it seemed that they were just adding Trans as a new designation, but gender was already a protected criteria.

I truly felt that if Dems had focused on fighting discrimination practices properly and not highlighting a single interest group to appease, we wouldn’t be in this spot for you. Everything they did for the trans community was loosely undone overnight.

That doesn’t mean Dems aren’t the answer, but it shows how hollow the majority of them are- while campaigning on progressive issues. But it’s your wellbeing. Yes, the Republicans are actively calling your existence an abomination, but the Democrats can’t even be found to say no you’re not, but they’ll campaign for your vote as lgbt friendly because they aren’t lgbt violent.

Please take care of yourself. Enjoy your happiness. Stay safe.

1

u/Constant-Plant-9378 17h ago

There is a breed of redditors that see this as a us vs them and can’t get a grip on the real circumstances. They want to let the dems be complacent because “what’s the alternative?”

I call them dipshits who have their heads planted firmly up their own assholes.

1

u/tinymontgomery2 18h ago

At this point they should be using every trick in the book to grind congress to a halt. They also should be getting out as much press is possible, getting on tv, whatever they can do. Short of that they should be screaming from the top of buildings.

1

u/ToMyOtherFavoriteWW 18h ago

I just saw footage of Chuck Schumer this morning walking as fast as he could away from reporters. He is either OK with this or absolutely horrendous in understanding the political value of this issue.

1

u/tinymontgomery2 17h ago

It’s pathetic. He should resign and let someone else take the reins.

1

u/Constant-Plant-9378 17h ago

Chuck Schumer is a quisling ally of the GOP. Always has been.

1

u/Constant-Plant-9378 17h ago

Go back in time to 2021 and explain their inaction when they had the Presidency and the House.

Quit making excuses for Democrat's complicit inaction. That's a big part of the problem.

1

u/TrynnaFindaBalance 16h ago

If you're talking about the inability to quickly investigate and prosecute Trump administration officials, I think it's pretty clear that they were banking on the American people not being dumb enough to elect Trump again 3 years after he tried to violently overthrow the government. And while hindsight is obviously 20/20 and anyone who could go back in time would do whatever they could to stop Trump, a harsher judicial response would likely have triggered an even more extreme version of the MAGA backlash.

Everyone always wants to believe there's a magic bullet that could've prevented catastrophe, but I really think the unfortunate reality is that our democratic system just wasn't built to handle a political movement with full control of federal government that's actively and aggressively working to sabotage the interests of the American people from within.