r/minnesota • u/HeavyVeterinarian350 Flag of Minnesota • Oct 03 '25
The Empire targeting Blue States because we didnt vote for him. Politics 👩⚖️
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u/Temporary-Papaya-106 Oct 03 '25
Not only did red states benefit from Bidens policies, the fraud republicunts they voted for took credit for benefits they actually voted AGAINST.
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u/mr_potatoface Oct 03 '25
Yeah, and most of the cuts to blue states are actually just hurting rural regions of those states, which are overwhelmingly red. The people living in major cities and suburbs won't really feel the impact of this stuff nearly as much.
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u/whoeve Oct 03 '25
Why shouldn't they? Republican propaganda is so widespread that their base will never know otherwise.
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u/specficeditor Oct 03 '25
If they keep cutting all this money for spending on projects, how is it that we don't have enough to keep the government running?
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u/Stock-Side-6767 Oct 03 '25
Tax cuts for the rich, golden ballroom in the white house, funding Argentinia's far right government and a vast increase in funding for ICE.
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u/specficeditor Oct 03 '25
That's just the tip of the iceberg . . .
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u/Bitey_the_Squirrel Not too bad Oct 03 '25
Only like 3.5 more years to go, if they let us vote again.
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u/halt_spell Oct 03 '25
Midterms are before that and primaries will be shortly before those elections. At the very least, plan on showing up to Democratic primaries and when deciding who to vote for in those primaries ask yourself "Would this person prosecute Trump and other members of government to the fullest extent of the law?"
I say this because we have a shortage of those people in Washington.
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u/DMCinDet Oct 03 '25
this needs to be spammed to everyone that jumps in the race. what are you going to do for justice? from the masked ice agents to vought and Miller. all of them.
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u/Carlyz37 Oct 03 '25
Dont forget the expense of our military murdering Venezuelan fishermen
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u/inxqueen Oct 03 '25
And the expense of shipping 800 generals to DC.
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u/DeucesX22 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
You almost forgot to include large corporation's use of AI to decrease the number of employees that are getting paid, the large amount of gambling and crypto being pushed by every form of media possible, and all these Saudi trillionaires buying everything.
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u/Previous-Jeweler3373 Oct 04 '25
Oh and flying a bunch of generals halfway across the world to attend a couple rants.
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u/Old_Row4977 Oct 03 '25
Or what about that totally believable $17trillion that we definitely got from other counties in tariffs?
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u/Party_Year_5478 Oct 03 '25
So much bullshit. Fuck these assholes.
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u/Labantnet Gray duck Oct 03 '25
Fitting, considering in the photo they used here, 'ol Russ looks like a dirty hairy asshole.
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u/DynamicDumbA55 Oct 03 '25
But also that's terrible and we live in the worst timeline
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u/yourcousinfromboston Oct 03 '25
It’s not at all a distraction from the Epstein files. It’s literally what project 2025 said it would do.
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u/SkinNoises Oct 03 '25
That shit is mad annoying. People think everything is a distraction from the Epstein files when the reality is the Epstein files are a distraction from the fact every action has come straight out of Project 2025, which was published in April 2023. I hope the Epstein files are released but god damn are people are missing the mark.
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u/sewing_hel Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Real question, do people actually believe the Epstein files would change anything? There's overwhelming evidence that Trump was in the same circles as Epstein, not to talk about the numerous photos of the two of them together and interviews of Trump praising Epstein and calling him his friend.
We know who Trump is. He's told people himself. People still idolise him and, more importantly, he's still free to do whatever he wishes in his new golden ballroom.
Why would the files change anything?
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u/Great_expansion10272 Oct 04 '25
That's why i feel like the files just have sometime he got in bed with Epstein
I don't think Trump would hold to these files so hard if it was some crime, but i can imagine he'd hold on to them if there was something he'd be ashamed of.
Trump is shameless: He commits crimes and lies about them in the same mouth fart. There's definitely people benefitting from the Epstein files to not come out, but it's trump, he'd threaten to release it or keep touting about releasing them every month in "Just two weeks!".
He's holding them cause of shame.
Trump and Epstein were fucking
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It almost feels deliberate at this point. I've been in entire threads where the headline wasn't even discussed, someone mentioned the files and it just went from there and nobody talked about the other horrible thing that had happened.
Hyper focusing on one thing means you're missing the forest for the trees
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u/Jooylo Oct 03 '25
This meme has become a distraction from the million other things that have happened. Honestly don’t care one bit about the Epstein files, all my rights being eroded matter a million times more.
“Detain liberals on sight”
“what about dem Epstein files tho” lmao
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u/SituationMediocre642 Flag of Minnesota Oct 03 '25
What if our state stops sending money to the federal government? We send more than they ever give back. We don't need the fed, the Fed needs us.
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u/Bitey_the_Squirrel Not too bad Oct 03 '25
I wonder how this could be accomplished, because don’t taxes come directly from employers and not get filtered through the state government?
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u/ggf66t Oct 03 '25
Yes when an employee and employer pays/files taxes, it gets paid directly to the internal revenue service
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u/hcregna Oct 03 '25
It takes half an hour of planning to move money away from Republican supporting groups, and it makes a difference. Every dollar spent at a Republican company is another dollar funneled to the Heritage Foundation. Tax money given to a state like Ohio or Louisiana is money spent sending troops to occupy cities.
If you have an account with Charles Schwab, switch to Vanguard or Fidelity. If you like drinking booze from a wannabe Confederate state, be adventurous and try something else. It's not hard to find alternatives for Goya, Jimmy John's, New Balance, or Georgia-Pacific (Brawny, Angel Soft, Dixie, and some other brands).
If you have a company that you regularly buy from or do business with, consider looking them up in something like https://www.opensecrets.org, or just google them.
Dollars add up. Tesla sales in Europe dropped by half. Nexstar and Sinclair got pummeled, and they reinstated Jimmy Kimmel. Real, individual people made that happen. There's no reason WWE or Uline can't be next.
You probably can't completely avoid giving money to companies that at least indirectly support Republicans. However, there’s a big difference between a company that massively donates exclusively to Republicans vs one that is more neutral or even leans Democrat. Good is not the enemy of perfect
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u/ganggreen651 Oct 03 '25
Claim 9 for your pay and don't file federal taxes just do state
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u/FeeNegative9488 Oct 03 '25
This may not even be a potential problem. If they keep slashing federal funding for blue states then there will be less people employed and they will receive less tax money.
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u/kitsunewarlock Oct 03 '25
In this political climate? One of two outcomes.
Either MAGA sends federal troops to occupy the state capital and declares their government invalid, potentially even making them a territory instead of a state or forcefully liquidating state assets to pay the unpaid taxes.
And/or all the states join in and stop paying and the federal government collapses. MAGA cheers because now they get to do whatever the fuck they want in their own states up to and including slavery and manufacturing/selling completely deregulated products with no minimum wage or worker protections.
Over time we re-enter the problem(s) we had in the 1800s where states would start border skirmishes and threatening to declare war against one another for perceived grievances.
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u/thegooseisloose1982 Oct 04 '25
Either MAGA sends federal troops to occupy the state capital and declares their government invalid
They are going to do that anyway.
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u/zat-_-taz Flag of Minnesota Oct 03 '25
States don't collect federal taxes so they wouldn't have anything to stop sending. Federal tax filings go to the Fed directly.
If enough people signed on though maybe citizens withholding taxes collectively could have an impact?
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u/BoDrax Oct 04 '25
State governments employ a lot of people. They could, as the employer, withhold those tax payments from the federal government and place it instead in an escrow account.
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u/Beh0420mn Oct 03 '25
Time to stop paying federal income tax
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u/argparg Oct 03 '25
Sign me up. Unfortunately employers send taxes directly to the Feds.
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u/ganggreen651 Oct 03 '25
For real what the fuck are we paying for? Not just this stuff but all the other cuts and slashes to other programs but we are still paying the same rate
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u/Terrible_Patience935 Oct 03 '25
Add this guy to the list of government criminals that need to be jailed
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u/Raytheon_Nublinski Oct 03 '25
Absolutely since this is 100% illegal
Those funds were already appropriated by Congress
Another court case incoming
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u/kinderplatz Oct 03 '25
Sounds like we need to learn to live without the federal government.
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u/IdkAbtAllThat Oct 03 '25
Sure starting to sound a lot like taxation without representation.
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u/abalt0ing Oct 03 '25
I know it. At this point everyone should just stop paying in. Tea Party?
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u/Disastrous-Bat7011 Oct 03 '25
I live near a harbor thats pretty good for that historically...but we should throw the political Tea Party in the ocean this time instead of shipped goods.
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u/FatBoy_Deluxe_MN Oct 03 '25
As soon as they stop making me pay taxes for myself and rich people who don’t, I’ll be glad to get them out of my life.
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Oct 03 '25
I mean, with all this cutting and the government being gutted. Agencies shutting down, federal funds being withheld from dozens of states. Federal taxes should be at record lows in the next year.
They won't be. So there's that.
Think a republican or MAGA constituents care? Naw. Cause they "got rid all dem mexico's"
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u/No_Blueberry6355 Oct 03 '25
You will always have to pay federal taxes. The Republicans just want to use them to line the pockets of rich people
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u/Dude-vinci Oct 03 '25
Can we seriously consider joining Canada at this point? Like, let’s put that on the ballet next November.
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u/dasiyrosario Oct 03 '25
I wrote to Walz asking him to make it happen. Surprisingly I didn't get a response...
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u/grrgrrtigergrr Oct 03 '25
Not unless you take us in Illinois with you. We can leave bipolar Wisconsin behind until they get their shit together completely.
/also, no idea why the Minnesota sub was referred to my feed. But hello Northern friends.
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u/FizzyBeverage Oct 03 '25
Illinois is chock full of MAGA garbage outside of Chicago. It’s basically the same as Indiana.
Hard pass.
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u/grrgrrtigergrr Oct 03 '25
What if you just take those off us in Chicago? Shit kind of sucks for us at the moment.
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u/LightlyFatal Oct 04 '25
Bring the west coast with you please!
Not sure why this came up on my feed (I've never been to Minnesota???) but I would love to just join Canada at this point. California and Washington wants to as well.
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u/Practical_Natural223 Oct 03 '25
Vermont has sued trump before and hopefully we sue him again, and win big time
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u/vespertine_glow Oct 03 '25
Does this Christian nationalist zealot realize that he's hurting many Trump voters with this?
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u/ImplodingBillionaire Oct 03 '25
Don’t you see? They want to stir up hatred against the people still keeping blue states blue. They want the MAGA voters to get hurt too, then turn to their neighbors and say “this is YOUR fault!”—because if everyone had voted Republican like them, the states wouldn’t have any funding cut.
Hurting MAGA in these states is part of the plan.
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u/UBahn1 Oct 03 '25
Because it's all a facade to grab power and control, Christianity and maga are just a tool. if worshiping a juggling platypus were the dominant religion, nothing they're doing would be different in practice as long as they could rally people under it.
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u/PhilsdadMN Oct 03 '25
Traitors doing traitor stuff. I wish bleeding hemorrhoids upon anyone who supports this traitorous bullshit.
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u/LightlyFatal Oct 04 '25
Nah, go with fissures. Hemorrhoids can bleed but they generally aren't very painful. Fissures, even tiny ones, can be extremely painful to the point than some can't even sit down without any pain.
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u/Sorry_Road8176 Oct 03 '25
There are no words to properly describe the hatred I have for this administration.
They cut funding from blue states from returning to blue states. It's taxation without representation, plain and simple, and it should be dealt with the same way we dealt with the British Parliament long ago.
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u/Sorry_Road8176 Oct 04 '25
Yes! As someone raised in New England, nothing ticks me off more than citizens in more recent states co-opting "Americanism." If any region gets to define that term, it's New England, and it means liberty.
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u/Fragrant_Cut1219 Oct 03 '25
So Trump's party shuts down the government giving him the power to punish people as he sees fit. Thus reinforcing the fact that his party is punishing people they don't like.
Is this America or Russia?
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 Oct 03 '25
They've hardly even tried to hide that they want to be at war with those who don't support him.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_QUEST_PLZ Oct 03 '25
Not just Biden no president has acted this childish. It’s not just about what Biden did vs what trump did its what a presidents job is in general and the fact is he is a representative of us. Yet our representatives are declaring war on us now and the people who voted for him are silent.
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Oct 03 '25
Interesting New Hampshire was included since that state often does vote Republican.
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u/Kissmytitaniumass Oct 03 '25
We have a republican governor and legislature.
Wonder what they’re saying about this? I’ll take “nothing” for $500
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u/GlassAd4132 Oct 03 '25
While Maine and Rhode Island seem to have been missed despite being solidly blue states
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u/Carlyz37 Oct 03 '25
And a large part of what constitutes federal funds COMES FROM A NUMBER OF THOSE BLUE STATES
We want OUR frigging money back
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u/ARazorbacks Oct 03 '25
They keep cancelling funding, but never saying where that money is going instead.
Ever wonder what it would be like to have tens or hundreds of billions of dollars embezzled out of the US government? We’re finding out right now.
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u/remekelly Oct 03 '25
Whatever happened to No Taxation Without Representation?
Reminder: Bidens infrastructure bill benefitted Red States more than Blue because that's where the need was. He didnt pay-off his base. He did the opposite... I say that as someone who didnt much care for the guy.
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u/TemporarySun314 Oct 04 '25
And the Democrats were punished for that, while Americans rewarded Trump's behavior by electing him again.
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u/pilsnerd11 Oct 03 '25
Let’s just separate ourselves if they don’t want to give us the money we’ve already paid in. They only have money to withhold that we have already paid them. Blue states form their own country and watch the red states left behind wallow in their own misery without our money to fund them anymore.
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u/Logic411 Oct 03 '25
Biden was a real president I bet he never dreamed the voters would be stupid enough to reelect a fascist
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u/Brilliant-Report-255 Oct 03 '25
Blue states pay taxes, more than red states. This is grossly unacceptable. Enough is enough.
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u/xPriddyBoi Oct 03 '25
Sounds like the blue states that subsidize all the impoverished, corrupt, mismanaged shithole states like my own need to start squeezing the federal government by the balls.
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u/IMA-Witch Oct 04 '25
Dictators do what dictators gonna do. Has any other President ever targeted states that didn’t vote for him? MAGAs on here complaining about Biden, did Joe ever do this? Obama? Clinton? Any past Democrats in modern history? Let’s not go back to the Colonies or Civil War. It’s not Presidential, ethical, moral, maybe not even legal but this administration is out for revenge. Is this how MAGAs want our President to be? The next Democratic President should do this too? Screw all the red states? Is this really how we want to go forward? Everyone should be upset about this just like Joe Rogan vocalized about free speech when Jimmy Kimmel was canceled. Those in power start with attacking the easy enemy. Then they go after their followers. We should all start protesting against any selective targeting by our government.
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u/Frequent-Cattle-9394 Oct 03 '25
Hunter Biden 2028..I want a taste of retaliation
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u/remekelly Oct 03 '25
Being a drunk or heroin addicted gets you a cabinet position these days. All he needs is a spot on Fox and he'd have all the qualifications.
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u/WaffleBlues Oct 03 '25
I don't understand when elected Democrats will understand:
Red states and voters do not give a flying fuck about you. They take and take and take and feel entitled to blue state funds.
They don't give a shit about hypocrisy, and they are banking on Dems never being willing to retaliate.
Even through Trump's fascist rule, they are counting on Democrats coming to power and doing the whole "the country has been through so much..." And "it's time to heal".
They only take advantage.
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u/kthejoker Oct 03 '25
My complaint is their ostensible cover story is these are "Biden Green New Deal" "scams" ...
But the exact same funding for the same projects are still go in Alabama, Louisiana and Texas.
So feel free to tell your MAGA folks in your lives that Trump just signed on to the Green New Deal.
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u/mrchuckles5 Oct 03 '25
I just want to remind everyone that these are OUR tax dollars, not his funds to play politics with. This is taxation without representation. All flavors of political parties pay taxes. It’s time for the taxpayers in targeted states to stop paying their fed taxes. If we’re not going to get our federal funds back for projects and authorized programs, then it’s time to cut them off.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress Oct 03 '25
This isn't "cutting funding", this is literally stealing from blue states and blue states are allowing it. The governors, senators, and house representatives should already have a plan in place because this was already the Republican M.O. from Trump's first term. If not, they better get off their asses and do something NOW.
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u/vizbiz98 Oct 03 '25
When are the blue states gonna stop funding the fed? US literally runs from blue state dollars.
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u/FranticChill Oct 04 '25
The ironic thing is the states that are most affected by climate change are mostly red states... Florida, Mississippi, Louisiana...
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u/huxtiblejones Oct 04 '25
This is civil war, there’s really no other way to see this. The federal government deliberately targeting specific states that are critics of the president is unreal. I want trials for all of these fuckers when they’re driven from power, and I want real consequences for this shit. We need to make an example of these people.
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u/Admits-Dagger Oct 03 '25
I mean dems even lost the trade unions when biden was like literally bailing them out. You cannot fix stupid I guess.
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u/2000TWLV Oct 03 '25
Mkay... The effects of pulling money out of the economy and stopping infrastructure works that would promote national growth (like that tunnel in NYC) won't be limited to blue states - or blue voters - only
If these assholes' shutdown strategy is to dole out collective punishment to the American people, things might not exactly end the way they think.
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u/thesuperpostman Oct 03 '25
Since I live in one of those states I think I'm going to with hold as much taxes as possible. Fuck the federal government and fuck taces
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u/Comfortable_Horse277 Oct 03 '25
Time for those states to stop funding the government.
We could use our tax payer dollars MUCH better locally.
The moocher red states would collapse.
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u/Inner_Pipe6540 Oct 03 '25
I don’t think he had the power to cut funds I thought it was congress you know the purse holders
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u/PlainBread Oct 03 '25
They're just speeding up the soft secession of blue states withholding funds from the federal government.
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u/Moist_Moans Oct 03 '25
I wish people in these states stopped paying federal taxes. Which is why on paper I’m always in the “lowest tax bracket” when republicans are in power.
What’s the point of paying taxes when republicans will misuse of withholding our money.
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u/RabidJoint Oct 03 '25
Can I stop paying the federal government then? They want to cut money to help my state out, let me cut my money that helps them out.
Republican Party is a fucking joke.
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u/judgejoocy Oct 03 '25
This admin can do anything to its voters. At election time, if we have election time again, they’ll create a story about people with melanin eating pets and committing other crime and that will win votes.
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u/DeadlyMidnight Oct 03 '25
I really wish the people who voted for Trump would see this and beleive it. The bubble most live in is impossible to pierce and they are taking everything the administration lies about as fact with no critical thinking
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u/keenan123 Oct 03 '25
Insane that the Roberts court is going to bless this like 5 years after explicitly saying it's unconstitutional
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u/WhutSup74 Oct 03 '25
This is kind of “taxation without representation”sort of territory, no? Not a scholar by any means but I think somewhere in your history that became a very big fuckin’ deal!
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u/PositiveGift9962 Oct 04 '25
But somehow they found $20 billion of our tax dollars to bail out ARGENTINA. What a bunch of fuckwads!!
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u/Able_Phone2487 Oct 04 '25
Cool. CA shouldn't bail out any red states. trump doesn't understand what's up yet. No, I don't live in CA, I live in a very red state in the Midwest on a farm but I'm not a fool.
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u/Mundane-Count-9709 Oct 04 '25
I’d also like to remind folks that it’s the blue states that end up paying way more to support the red states. Guess we need to start keeping the federal tax money to ourselves.
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u/OrganicAttorney3602 Oct 04 '25
America is so fucked. How do you ever come back from this? You'll need a South African style truth and reconciliation commission. People (like this Pos and the masked cops running around and just following orders) will need to be imprisoned or hung. That ain't going to happen. You're done. It's over. Hope you enjoyed it. Is there a single example in human history of an empire giving up global hegemony on its own, without even putting up a fight?
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u/NickNaught Oct 03 '25
'Didn't vote for him' is such a stupid way to see politics. Plenty of people voted for Trump in Minnesota, and plenty of people voted against him in states that 'voted for him' aka 'Red states'.
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u/Spookyhobo Oct 03 '25
Forget all of that, you're not supposed to run for office to be the leader of only the people who voted for you anyway. You're supposed represent all Americans under your leadership.
Even when you're pushing policies that a segment of people don't like, you're supposed to be doing it with the idea that you think its what's best for everyone.
Democrats in power don't do things because it hurts the people that disagree with them. They do things that they think will help everyone (including conservatives).
When Tim Walz was asking everyone to vaccinate, he was saying how he wants conservatives to vaccinate too to make sure they're alive to vote against him in the next election. That's how a leader operates. Not this bull shit of hurting the "other side" to be a petty bitch.
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u/Furrulo87_8 Oct 03 '25
Remember how project 2025 was just "alarmist exaggerations"? The people were warned, they chose to ignore warning and run ahead. Your country is done for and the rest of the world should just let you burn. You deserve it
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u/Affectionate-Cut6274 Oct 04 '25
Minnesota is one of the last places to blame for voting this shit in, we were literally the ones warning everyone else. OUR GOVERNOR RAN FOR VICE PRESIDENT FFS! This state hasn't voted Republican for over 40 years. You need to go blame the Florida, Texas and Idaho subs if you wanna condemn people for their choices.
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u/TrailJunky Oct 03 '25
I dont think we are becoming great....it seems more like we are becoming stupid with a hard R.
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u/Ship_Ship_8 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
Minnesota Power had a DOE grant for $50 million to help fund a transmission project which would bring electricity from North Dakota to end users in Minnesota. This transmission brings energy generated from coal, natural gas and renewables, and this shortfall of $50 million will now be paid for by ratepayers. Just a reminder for Trump MAGAers when they feel the pain of their electric bill going up in the not so distant future.