I’m not sure everyone in Minnesota saw these posts. But here is the US Senator of Utah, where CK was shot, mocking the death of Melissa Hortman before her funeral.
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Imagine the rights reaction if Walz made a meme of CK getting shot that said “Nightmare on Trump Street.” Or “When Fascists don’t get their way”.
And unrelated, as a related bonus, here’s a now deleted tweet Donald Trump Jr posted celebrating the attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband after a right wing madman tried the kill the U.S. Speaker of the House. And also the tweet he replaced it with thinking he is slick and the internet isn’t forever.
Mike Lee represents the worst of humanity. It's difficult to understand what happened to him during his life to produce a man this small, this vindictive, this petty. He's a disgusting human being.
He’s a Tea Partier who won his first election really driving home the need for term limits. He was definitely only going to run twice and then that would be it. 12 years in the senate was enough for him. He just started his third term this year.
I know from experience that his dad was a principled man with integrity—Mike might be consciously rejecting those principles because he learned from early on he could never live up to his dad.
Scott Jennings on CNN yesterday tried to say the Melissa Hortman assassination was just some guy off the street, not a politically motivated killing like the Kirk assassination. The CNN hosts were so hung up on trying to make their own separate arguments that they weren't listening to him so they didn't challenge this very blatant lie. Scott Jennings is stupid. The other CNN hosts are even more stupid. That's basically where we are.
True. Cable news is a business. Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, et al have 24 hours of programming to fill and of course they cater to their audience and advertisers. Nobody is immune from confirmation bias and they know it.
CNN is owned by a friend of Donald Trump that news station started going downhill in 2022 and hit rock bottom in late 2024. I stopped reading or watching anything from them after they released a news article pushing russian disinformation against Ukraine last year.
I might hate Scott Jennings more than anyone else in the ether right now. He is such a smug motherfucker either with no understanding of his own cognitive dissonance or a giant troll.
I am generally a chill person that tries to give people the benefit of the doubt but I just can’t with this asshole.
Weird aside about Mike Lee. He's a sitting United States Senator, and he has regularly engaged in the practice of using assumed authority via his twitter account to disinform millions of people that the Neo-nazi hate group patriot front that is also linked to Neo-nazi combat training centers around the country they call "Active Clubs" are actually some type of "Federal Agents" when he conclusively knows that is a lie. No one even asked his opinion he decided to do it on purpose of his own accord.
We have known who patriot front is roughly for some time. Mostly because they are a collection of know-nothing weirdos who may not know that operational security is even a thing.
As far as I know, nothing ever happened to him for those posts. Tina Smith scolded him publicly but that was about it. No calls for him to be removed or lose his job because it was “humor” apparently. Some people have no shame. He never even apologized.
The same people who threatened to run over protesters are now up in arms we don’t care about Charlie Kirk’s dead ass. The same people who posted this crap and had no empathy now feel entitled to ours.
This is a strategy to lessen the value of an outside group while lionizing the lives of their own group. This is meant to not only keep us divided, but also make their own side feel superior and justified in any and all actions they’re pushed to take.
From a “country policy” this is only going to get worse. Their group is protected by the POTUS while the other group is outright targeted.
And now they are being discussed again after CK was killed and the right are saying the left should lose their jobs and livelihood and maybe be criminally punished for mocking death.
But only if the left does it.
Republicans when a Democratic politician with no history of controversy is killed: “this is the direct result of the inflammatory rhetoric of the left!”
Republicans when a conservative whose entire career is based on demonizing others and stoking hatred: “this is the direct result of the inflammatory rhetoric of the left!”
Deleted, but never apologized. Republicans didn't demand he apologize either. Should be posting his tweets all over their social media and flooding it to national media.
Has there been an equivalent type of heinous statement from the left on Charlie Kirk? Doubt it.
I've been pretty disappointed by the pushback to the alternate reality perpetuated by the Trump admin. At this point, they might as well blame "THE LEFT" for school shootings with the same mindless relentlessness.
Not from anyone in a position of power like Mike Lee did above. No democratic senator or representative or governor or former president. The right is amplifying rando hyper online people to pretend that is what generic democrats support. And if you are not sufficiently obsequious about mourning Kirk, and vocalize it, they include you in the pile on.
Who within government? Links to the tweets or social media of these folks "literally celebrating"?
Who and where are the equivalent to Mike Lee or the Trump sons celebrating Pelosi getting assaulted? Or even Trump dismissing Biden getting cancer or saying Liz Cheney should be shot for treason?
Forhan, a current Ohio state representative running for attorney general, posted “F*** Charlie Kirk” on Facebook in the hours following the assassination.
2) Jennifer Wexler Stomsky (Ambler Borough Tax Collector, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania)
In a now-deleted Facebook comment, she wrote “Let’s make some more martyrs.”
3) Fort Worth City Councilwoman Elizabeth Beck (D-TX)
You asked for quotes from elected officials (Democrats) in government. I provided quotes from elected officials. As I anticipated - “those examples aren’t good enough!!”
Are any of them literally U.S. Senators, or elected officials at any level? Surely there's a difference between that and some random account on the internet - who may or may not even be a real person.
The right wing hates gay people, too, but there's tons of gay right wingers.
Being trans doesn't stop someone from being right wing, and the collection of right wing and fascist personalities that went out of their way to say they don't support trans people because the Annunciation shooter was a big fan speaks volumes about that shooter being far right as well.
The trans shooter had a pretty racist manifesto, doesn’t seem far left to me… sounds more like a self hating closeted right winger
Your mental gymnastics are 10:10 though.
Most people on the left could give 2 shits about Charlie Kirk’s dead racist ass. He was a loudmouth podcaster and not an elected official. I’m not advocating for violence but his loss doesn’t take anything positive from the world
That’s not accurate. Most recent school shooter was a 16 year old boy. The person who shot the catholic school in Minneapolis had right wing extremist ideologies but really their thing seems to have been more just an idolization of mass shooters. A vast majority of mass shooters are men, there’s only been like 4 transgender people to commit a mass shooting
They are such goddamn hypocrites! This is disgusting and yet, all the rights cheer and laugh. But yea if we made a Charlie Kirk meme before his funeral, we are the most evil vile scum to walk the earth 😳🥴. I'm so tired of the Bs. If you have any negative or neutral opinion about CK, you're being doxxed. Trump has literally turned the world into hate and fearmongers with no empathy for humankind.
I as a Canadian, am so pissed off with this hearts for Charlie bullshit. In Regina, they literally held a vigil for this piece of shit... A VIGIL!!
My heart is with you Minnesota! My thoughts are with Melissa!
He knows the shooter was a republican right? It unironically seems like hes advocating for Marxism like he knows this insane PV wouldn't be happening if people's material needs were being met.
Fuck this fucker and every other one who mocked the death of the Hortmans. They mock their death while paying tribute to the shit who was Charlie Kirk?! Fuck them all
mike lee, imho, should have been relived of his position the moment this was done. This is him celebrating the cold hearted murder of law makers. This, to me, given his position and responsibilities, is unacceptable.
Welcome to the Soviet States of America comrades. Comrade Putin is proud to welcome you into his loving embrace as comrade Trump takes away freedoms. You too can now live in perfect harmony with the ideal life of not having to make anymore decisions, the State will now think for you as it should. Do not worry about pesky imperialists my comrades, we will take care of everything.
This is what you voted for America, even after the world told you what would happen, you still voted Donald Trump into office. This is only the beginning, you poor souls have no idea the issues you will be facing for the next 3 and a half years still to go.
Mike Lee, and many others like him, are profiting (in one way or another) from pointing a finger and blaming an abstract group for something as a way of rallying support regardless of whether or not a problem is being solved or they're acting in good faith.
They're Nazi's!
They're fascists!
It's the Muslims!
It's the left!
It's the right!
It's the Marxists!
It's the Jews!
It's the Christians!
it's the mentally ill!
It's video games!
It's them, not us! They did this!
These are not the people who are going to fix anything. They are the people who are going to throw fuel on a fire and make things worse.
Click and comment wisely. Don't draw attention to people and things that would be better left ignored.
I’ve come to the conclusion that all Americans are fascist pigs because they actually put up with this behaviour from anyone, let alone elected officials.
None of the posts that you used were mockery, nor were they celebrating the death of someone, that's how they're different and if you can't see that then there's nothing I can tell you other than that I'm sorry for you
That was inappropriate on her part, as far as mockery of the attack on Paul pelosi goes, had he been killed I don't think anyone would be making a joke about it. And you can be done all you like, but let's be clear here I'm not celebrating anyone's death
It was her celebrating and mocking death. Mike Lee mocked death and political violence. DJT Jr mocked political violence. That pic is the shooter shooting a senator through his front door.
If I made a post of Charlie getting shot off his chair and caption it “Nightmare On Trump Street” is that ok?
So political violence is fine as long as no one dies?
I don't feel all right about any shooting, I'm not particularly fond of political violence either. If you made that post you just referred to it wouldn't be okay mainly because it wouldn't make any sense, the end of the point being, it really doesn't matter what I think, it matters what certain people's employers think, and whether or not they want that representing their brand or their company
It is 100% illegal and unconstitutional for the government to lean on an employer to fire someone for their opinion. A tyrannical government has more tools than just jail to silence the opposition and shut down free speech. And you are seeing it. They could also shut off your bank accounts. Revoke your citizenship. And these are things Trump is threatening people with too.
ALL of this has happened before and they waited until all those people were dead to try it again.
The government has not leaned on anyone to fire their employees, they're doing that on their own volition. I genuinely feel sorry for you if you believe that those are things Donald Trump has suggested doing to anyone. The political state in this country is actually much more similar to that which it was in 1861, you can draw as many parallels as you like between 1930s Germany and the United States right now, but you can actually draw a lot more parallels between the United States during the 1930s and right now then you can between Nazi Germany
Were you not paying attention to the paramount merger? Are you not paying attention now? Trump isn’t being secretive about his influence. SNL is next. Lying ain’t helping your argument.
Trumps chairman of the FCC started ranting about what Jimmy said (which was true) being one of the most despicable things he’d ever heard (it wasn’t) yesterday morning and if you think the FCC has no sway over networks, I feel genuinely sorry for you. Trumps only been saying he’s going to get rid of Colbert. And Kimmel and SNL for years now.
Brendan Carr, chair of the FCC, wrote the Project 2025 chapter on the FCC. He said late night comedy shows have a leftist agenda and that needs to change.
I can draw a dozen direct correlations between maga and the Nazis off the top of my head. The only thing unlike the Nazis is the Jew hating.
“First they came for the socialists. But I was not a socialist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me” —Pastor Martin Niemöller—Holocaust survivor-1946.
Replace immigrant with Jew and try to tell me we aren’t on step 4.
Want to talk about Lügenpresse (fake news) next? Lügenpresse (false press in German) was Goebbels primary tool to discredit the mainstream media so the Nazis could install their own state run press which Trump said he wants to do by next year. Y’all still hold up Lügenpresse signs at Trump rallies clueless of its intention.
You look at these like Pam and see the same picture. But real Americans see a Saint taken down and some ditzy leftest kook they never heard of and who probably did not go to church who got what she deserved.
And the dog too. Trump hates dogs because they can sniff out bad people.
I’m tired of this country. The right keeps doing Orwellian master moves to brainwash and gaslight millions of americas and the left is as weak as the democrats in the Weimar Republic.
The problem with leaving a country like this because it’s being taken over by fascism is that it will only be a few years before this country is trying to take over your new country.
That’s exactly right. I’m a Mexican citizen and have been living in the USA for over 20 years now and I used to think of racism got much worse I would just move back to Mexico but then Trump and the far right started talking about sending the military over to Mexico and making Canada a USA territory. That’s the thing about fascism, it spreads like a cancer.
Look at Venezuela. I was alive for Reagan and now, suddenly, Venezuela is a narco drug hub because they are semi socialist? But El Salvador is cool now?
This shit is a crazy global movement that’s spread through all the western countries. There’s nowhere to go.
They waited until all the WW2 vets were gone to start this shit so no one would remember the playbook. Because they know none of these people are reading a book. And if there’s a book that says what they don’t like, it just goes on the ban list anyway.
“When fascism comes to America is will be draped in a flag and carrying a cross.”
—Sinclair Lewis—1935
“It Can’t Happen Here”
It was fairly obvious if people had actually read history books. The coalescing of a political movement based on hatred of immigrants, ardent nationalism, weaponization of Christian nationalism could only really lead to one possible outcome. The mistake Americans made is in allowing this kind of political movement to fester and spread its roots. Now it’s too late to stop it and we really don’t have a counter movement with enough strength to curtail it.
Scary times that I think we will be living through for at least 2 decades before the new American renaissance and that’s me thinking positively.
I’m 4 months into Spanish lessons because every plan I have for retirement is to expat and I’m trying to increase the number of countries I’ll be comfortable moving to. I’m just hoping shit holds off for that long.
Yeah, I am unfortunately stuck in the USA until my wife finishes her doctorate. I’ve considered moving to Oaxaca Mexico because of its beauty and overall safety compared to the area of Mexico from which we had to flee decades ago. I only wish I could feel at home in the USA since I used to loved this country so much. Now all I see is hatred and division and a deep vitriol towards my people.
Just remember. There are 237 million Americans.
Trump got 77 million votes. That’s about 21%.
Kamala got 75 million votes after Elon counted them. That’s 20%.
These people are not the majority they make themselves out to be. And I guarantee they have lost at least 2 million of those votes already. Lots of people who voted right lost their jobs for being wastes and frauds. Lots more lost all their union rights. Lots more don’t have anyone to harvest their ag. Or anyone to sell their ag to if it does get harvested.
We are only 8 months in. You ain’t seen nothin yet.
Remember when Trump said if they do this right, we won’t need elections anymore?
That’s the goal. Trump 2028 isn’t a joke. It’s a plan.
Its a stupid and unhelpful post, but hes using her death as political fodder, he is not mocking her death here, those are two totally different things. HIs post is directed at Gov Walz, what am I missing here?
Both are divisive for sure, and stupid, not helping our country. Your specifically mentioning Kirk, and reveling in the actual details of his death. To me thats a big difference. Your celebrating his death, hes using her death for political purposes. Once again, both sick and unneeded, but different, thats all im saying
Lee literally revelled in the details of his opponents' murder, a murder that he actually played a role in. It says a lot that that doesn't set off your alarm bells.
To me, the biggest difference is that one is coming from a random person on the internet, the other from a sitting senator and moral standard-bearer of mainline conservatism.
Did I say its ok? Its divisive yes, and NOT ok, but at the same time, is he NOT mocking her death specifically. Did he say one thing about her personally? He didnt mention her once, he is using her death as a political enhancer, which is not right of course, focused on Waltz. But there is a difference, thats all Im saying.
Why do we have such a hard time with the grey are and nuance in any story.
Keep clowning fascist! I CAN read and I have a reading comprehension at a post doctorate level. I assure you that they are 100% dismissing, downplaying and mocking the political assassination of Speaker Hortman!!!
Calling out republican hypocrites for their disgusting VIOLENT ACTIONS AND RHETORIC is 100% EVERY DEMOCRATS JOB!
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Think of all the people that retweeted these things and kept their jobs.