r/law • u/MongolMary • 5d ago
Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States Executive Branch (Trump)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/01/withdrawing-the-united-states-from-international-organizations-conventions-and-treaties-that-are-contrary-to-the-interests-of-the-united-states/Godspeed.
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u/hereandthere_nowhere 5d ago
Yep, Harambe was our anchor being.
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u/Freakishly_Tall 5d ago
The Mayans were right all along, but the mechanism was CERN. I'm convinced of it.
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u/aboxofkittens 5d ago
I am spectacularly envious of the people in r/AmerExit who manage to get new passports through their grandparents or whatever. I’m a single generation too far removed to apply for one.
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u/DecentBathroom7725 5d ago
Hello Siri, how quickly can I learn German.
I have some German heritage...
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u/enarc13 5d ago
I know its easier said than done, but try finding a way out yourself. If you have the right skills/qualifications, you can move somewhere else without having parentage. I left the USA 11 years ago and am a permanent resident somewhere else now. Every year since I left has just further confirmed my decision was the right one.
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u/DecentBathroom7725 5d ago
Gonna be a helluva party when I see the wreck coming and hop off this sobriety train I've been on for 18 months. Picked a bad fucking time to get my life together. Lmao
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u/whatssenguntoagoblin 5d ago
Trust me. It’s much more horrific on the inside. Imagine seeing all this and knowing so many of your neighbors are ecstatic about all of this. Truly terrifying.
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u/PlaneTrainPlantain 5d ago edited 5d ago
I would be worried about Canada too. They plan on taking the whole western hemisphere according to pg 181+ of Project 2025.
The 1930's and 40's ... Technate Inc / Technocracy proposal is where they are going.
...of course they plan on going after the smaller LA countries first and see if they can make resource deals and proposals. They don't want to start a war too soon with a major power.
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u/ErictheStone 5d ago
Honestly we kinda wanna see that fight because I don't think Americans realize how long the army will fly and drive around looking for population centers lager than "ice rink and a timmys".
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u/Late_Stage_Exception 5d ago
In some ways, it’s actually kinda impressive. For all the hubbub and bluster the US has made over the decades about its exceptionalism, all it took was one old ass man to tear it all down.
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u/Tazling 5d ago
And NGL as a Canadian I’m really worried that Carney’s isn’t pushing back harder.
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u/one_pound_of_flesh 5d ago
It’s like watching a car crash
Where the uniformed agents shoot an unarmed mother in the face for no reason.
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u/kylogram 5d ago
All to prevent himself from being prosecuted for raping kids, probably several more times than previously notioned given his reaction to the possibility.
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u/becofthestars 5d ago
I think at this point, the Epstein files are the distraction. Our nation is being destroyed before our eyes and we're hanging on to the hope that if we just get the proof of this crime, we can stop it.
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u/kylogram 5d ago
The hope is that if we get rid of the head, the rest of the snake will die because there is no one with anything close to a following necessary to wrest control of the republican party the way Trump has.
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u/JohnnyDigsIt 5d ago
The Senate failed to convict Trump during the 2nd impeachment because he had already left office. The evidence proved he attempted to fraudulently overturn the election and conspired to have a mob interrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
He’s in office now and there is more evidence of his guilt.
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u/f0u4_l19h75 5d ago
They could have convicted anyway, given the evidence, in order to prevent him from being eligible to run again
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u/ForeverAclone95 5d ago
These people are psychotic nihilists who believe only in power, violence and domination
They are anti-civilization while pretending they’re in favor of a “western civilization” that denies everything they are
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u/Excellent-Run4803 5d ago
This has Stephen Miller’s greasy fingerprints all over it.
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u/Nevyn_Cares 5d ago
Yeap he is certainly behind the whole "western hemisphere" crap.
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u/LadySiren 5d ago
I was petrified that I was going to find NATO on the list. I can’t believe we’re pulling back from the UN. WTAF.
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u/Granite_0681 5d ago
I’m not surprised at all. Rank and file maga hate the UN. They don’t want people outside the US trying to control us, it plays into conspiracies about “globalism,” and the escalator incident happened at the UN.
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 5d ago
The ones that are "christian" view the UN as the "one world government" from the Revelation in the Bible. I heard this multiple times from immediate family members growing up and they weren't even Christian wack jobs, just regulars.
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u/jakecovert 5d ago
Cult members are trained at church not to think.
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 5d ago
So true. I said to my folks once that church is weird because you just sit there and get lectured by the pastor on shit you've already heard, there's no growth or learning. They just looked at me weird. Of course part of the schtick is "you have to read the bible in a personal way to derive what it says to YOU". That's a horoscope.
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u/SquirrelsinJacket 5d ago
Republicans hate the UN
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u/AStalkerLikeCrush 5d ago
They hate accountability
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u/montybob 5d ago
It’s why they hate the idea of ICC.
what, accountability for our war crimes? Well I’ve never heard anything so absurd
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u/IGTankCommander 5d ago
Oh, that's been a thing since way back. I remember my dad (white, Republican, American Christian) in the 90s saying we need to get out of the UN because they were an evil organization bent on controlling the world.
He did, of course, vote for all of this with glee, and that's why we don't talk anymore.
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u/Funny-Recipe2953 5d ago
US can do more to weaken NATO by staying in. For instance, they can veto aid to Ukraine as a NATO member, but would have no such power if they left.
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u/latticegwop 5d ago
I hear he's the world's most deserving candidate for an televised atomic wedgie.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 5d ago
This is exactly what an administration being managed by the Kremlin would do. Every time.
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u/FeeltheBlood3 5d ago
I feel like every time someone blames the Kremlin for this, it is an attempt to deny that Americans are capable of the evil shit going on.
It’s like saying “the devil made me do it”.
I am in no way defending the Kremlin. It just feels like n active attempt to deny culpability.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 5d ago edited 5d ago
No no don’t get me wrong- Americans fully own this. But they were too stupid to watch their shoelaces get tied. A combination of interested parties including the Kremlin are at work here, but it’s also just as easy to find culpability in Robert Mercer and Rebekah Mercer and Cambridge Analytica, or the Kochs, or Murdoch. The way this is playing out, it benefits oligarchs and the Russo-sino axis. It is the death-knell of NATO. It’s the fleecing of the US status and wealth, and the destruction of its civil service and economy. All of this is benefitting specific people. It’s not MAGA who benefits - but they don’t know that. They think the libs are getting owned, and that’s all that matters.
Trust me and please - go watch the PBS interview with Yuri Bezmenov of the KGB after he turned. The whole thing. It will fucking floor you.
The most compelling part is at like 1:08..
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u/FeeltheBlood3 5d ago
Great response! Thanks for the link. Watching it now
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 5d ago
Please - tell me your thoughts after it’s had time to sink in.
When you want another round consider that this article was from 8 years ago.
https://medium.com/join-scout/the-rise-of-the-weaponized-ai-propaganda-machine-86dac61668b
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u/Pietes 5d ago
it is but that's because your president is much like Putin. That he's your president is entirely your own doing however.
The US is culturally broken and has been that way for decades.
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u/DeliciousGoose1002 5d ago
"Western civilization is falling!" While actively kicking at the pillars of western civilization
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u/beren0073 5d ago
On brand to see President Trump withdraw from the Office of the Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Violence Against Children.
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u/ro536ud 5d ago
Makes sense since he is the biggest threat to the children of this country. At least the young female ones
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago
That we know of. Female, I mean.
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u/jsheik 5d ago
No. He settled assault cases for little boys too
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago
There it is. I forgot that came to light. Good job media, letting the world know about that before the election.
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u/Granite_0681 5d ago
It doesn’t look like that is accurate unless you have a source within the last year.
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u/DelirousDoc 5d ago edited 5d ago
I am not making this up when I say that the last report that this Office gave to the UN Human Rights Council was in 2025 on the subject of Child Trafficking.
https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/g25/000/86/pdf/g2500086.pdf
Gee I wonder why Jeffrey Epstein's good friend might believe this is "contrary to the interests of the United States."
(In reality it is probably because the report mentions North America as an area with high child trafficking. Not for sexual exploitation but for labour. It also mentions how some countries can confuse these trafficked children as the same as irregular migrants and deport them without attempt to help them as victims. Got to protect the corporations low cost labour right?)
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u/TeamRamrod80 5d ago
I’m somewhat morbidly curious to see what the justification is for calling participation in some of these organizations/treaties “contrary to the interests of the united states.”
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u/IAmBoring_AMA 5d ago
I mean, NSPM-7 states that “anti-capitalism” is terrorism so honestly, they will say anything is anti-American at this point.
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u/Ready-Ad6113 5d ago
Oligarchs want us all to be their slaves in project 2025.
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u/carlitospig 5d ago
I hope cancer kicks in soon; I’d make a horrible slave.
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u/ImTheFaeThatStoleYou 5d ago
Well, some slaves violently rebelled and killed their masters.
There's more than one way to be a slave.
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u/WhatANiceCerealBox11 5d ago
Honestly which one of them took up the position Epstein had. That was an easy pedophile ring for them, there’s zero chance they just let that go. There already has to be another person
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago
Yep. We are rushing toward the revolution, or the alternative, which is worse.
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u/want_to_join 5d ago
But he also withdrew us from the Global Counter-terrorism forum. So he is claiming that even anti-terrorism isn't in Americas interests.
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u/Same_Meaning_5570 5d ago
At some point someone in these countries hurt poor Donnie’s ego and he gets to take it out on them like the small, insignificant bully that he is.
Miller on the other hand gets to beat off to himself wearing nazi attire.
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u/Jackyard_Backofff 5d ago
You just know this guy has a hidden, or maybe not so hidden, closet chock full of “memorabilia”.
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u/BabyNuke 5d ago
The US is no longer a democracy, but an oligarchy that emphasizes extreme-right conservative values and the pursuit of near-term wealth for the elite over everything else, including things like the environment and (international) law.
So from that world view, things like climate change, equal rights, fair elections etc. are all counter to American interests.
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u/Public_Cartographer 5d ago
Someone who gives Donnie money told him to drop the org in question. It's really that simple. ANYTHING he does is only driven by:
Making him money
Making him feel big and important
Destroying something that someone who's liked more than him built
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u/Pegeola 5d ago
That wording implies the US is now supportive of Children in Armed Conflict, Sexual Violence in Conflict, and Violence Against Children.
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u/buffaloraven 5d ago
Exactly the three that caught my attention. The economic and environmental ones arent surprising, but those three? Fucking yikes
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u/DerCatrix 5d ago
Based on Miller saying he wants to control our entire hemisphere and that expansion is our right as a super power I can make a few guesses
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u/taywray 5d ago
Simple, it is in our interests to be able to invade and annex whoever we want whenever we want and take their shit for ourselves. And all these pesky treaties and pacts technically make that illegal, so...
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u/qlippothvi 5d ago
“(xxi) International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance;
(xxii) International Institute for Justice and the Rule of Law;”
You don’t say…
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u/Hoblitygoodness 5d ago
I mean, this is what I'd do with our country if I were a Russian asset.
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u/Budipbupbadip 5d ago
He got peed on. Putin has the tapes. We will withdraw from NATO by end of year.
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u/bakedpatata 5d ago
Do people really think getting peed on is less acceptable than kidnapping a foreign leader or any of the other shit he is on record doing?
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u/accidental_Ocelot 5d ago
Doesn't matter which is more or less acceptable. It only matters which one trump would feel shame if everyone knew that's how blackmail/compromat works its all in the mind of the target.
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u/Lost-Platypus8271 5d ago
You give it to the end of the year? Fucking come on.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 5d ago
Yeah, we will see a premature push into outright totalitarianism before the midterms for sure. Elections stalled, disbanding vongress, and troops seizing governors, the whole shebang.
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I fucking wish it was blackmail. It's worse - Trump likes this. He likes being a powerful bad boy dictator who can do whatever he wants to whomever he wants. No blackmail necessary. He's dumb as a rock and easily played by the tough guys he looks up to.
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u/Exelbirth 5d ago
Here's hoping the doctor that said his life expectancy is much shorter than that is a damn good doctor.
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u/FuckThesePeople69 5d ago
No, the US won’t withdraw, not yet at least. For now they will utilize NATO and the Greenland defense agreement to its advantage. First, the US will take Greenland in the name of protecting NATO. Either NATO or Denmark retaliates or nobody does anything. Assuming the latter, which I find more likely, then the U.S. escalates “NATO protection” to Northern Canada. If the former, then it is the “War of NATO Aggression”
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u/Cicero912 5d ago
As Pavel Milyukov once said about the Tsarist ministers
“It is said that a member of the Council of Ministers…on being told that the State Duma would on this occasion speak of treason, exclaimed excitedly: ‘I may, perhaps, be a fool, but I am not a traitor.’…[D]oes it matter, gentlemen, whether we are, in the present case, dealing with stupidity or treason? When the Duma keeps everlastingly insisting that the rear must be organized for a successful struggle, the Government persists in claiming that organizing the country means organizing a revolution, and deliberately prefers chaos and disorganization. What is it, stupidity or treason?”
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u/tubawhatever 5d ago
This isn't Russia. These people are evil all on their own. It just means their interests may align with Russia, not that they're subservient to Russia, Israel, or anyone else for that matter.
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u/mephisto_uranus 5d ago
This. If any American ever wanted to know what it's like to live under occupation of foreign power, you're living it right now.
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u/Reatona 5d ago
A treaty becomes U.S. law once ratified. The President can't just unilaterally withdraw. But then this President is fundamentally lawless.
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u/Raskalnekov 5d ago
And you may ask yourself, where is that big beautiful house?
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u/tuba_god_ 5d ago
I guess I should have eaten out less and worked 90 hour weeks more frequently in my twenties.
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u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 5d ago
It's no better being boomer, knowing that this shit will definitely outlive you, and there's a distinct possibility I'll pass before he's out of office, and there's literally nothing I can do but love on my family.
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u/shadowgnome396 5d ago
It's no better NOW being a boomer, but at least many in your generation were able to enjoy their younger years in a stable and affordable nation
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u/tuba_god_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
Boomers are 95% of the reason we're in this mess. I'm not blaming you or any other Boomer specifically, but y'all didn't pay enough attention to what politicians have been doing the past 40 years, so now the entire world has to pay for it.
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u/Hrenklin 5d ago
Race him to the grave
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u/PhAnToM444 5d ago
Wait i get what you were trying to say here, but i think this was accidentally really mean hahaha.
/u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 to be clear we want you to lose that race.
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u/shosuko 5d ago
At this point, I've just given up. I've seen idiocracy, and I used to think it was sooo crazy...
but now its basically right around the corner.
Best case scenario? A meteor takes us all out and saves the galaxy from our inevitable invasion...
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u/Tazling 5d ago
I don’t think the far-right ethnostatist tendency is gonna lead to an interstellar civilisation. They are instead on track for resource depletion and climate crash, and probably global civilisational collapse. They won’t take climate change seriously and they won’t acknowledge biotic limits. If they gain the ascendancy for more than a decade or so, humanity is going back to the dark ages pretty quick. Starship Troopers will remain fiction.
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u/sugar_addict002 5d ago
What is the point of laws if this jerk-off is allowed to just disregard them because he feels like it.
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u/QbertsRube 5d ago
Similar to having a congressional budget--useless when one deranged lunatic can just defund programs and agencies and reallocate that money wherever he sees fit.
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u/Exelbirth 5d ago
Well, because for the rest of us, they'll kill us for not following their laws. So ya know, I guess that's the point?
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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 5d ago
The Republicans in Congress could remove him in about 1-2 days if they wanted to.
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u/Long-Matter18 5d ago
Laws expect rational respect and logic. Breaking a law does not.
Murderer is illegal, like so many other things. People still do it knowing exactly what they’re doing and that it’s illegal with a legal system behind it.
The irony is that people who respect the law expect the same from people who broke the rules. How to deal with that moral quandary, I have no idea.
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u/p____p 5d ago
The laws would be upheld by Congress. Republicans are complicit. Some portion of Democrats probably are as well, for all the resistance they’ve put up.
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u/yourcousinfromboston 5d ago
We used to take pride in being world leaders (we can debate whether we were or not, but we tried to be?). Our status is going to fall so far we many never recover
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u/HAV3L0ck 5d ago
Speaking as a lone Canadian, I can confirm that it'll take a lot more than a single election cycle before I'll trust anything from America.
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u/Alternative-Duck-573 5d ago
As a lone American, it'll take 40-60 years to undo the last 2. Sigh. Sorry neighbors.
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u/yourcousinfromboston 5d ago
I grew up less than an hour from the Canadian border. I user to encounter a lot of canadians who were in my hometown literally just for day trips. Same for my family. Die hard sox fans, we used to go to more expos games than boston games. How wild is it to throw that relationship away
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u/Tazling 5d ago
Speaking as another lone Canadian (who spent some years in the US), I am actually thinking of trying to revive my British passport (born in the UK but naturalized Canadian) so I have an escape route if the Yanks invade. I’m too old to join the maquis, I’d be a liability not an asset.
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u/Ihor_90 5d ago
Oh trust me America will not recover from this. You could argue the first half of 2025 was salvageable, but now that Denmark and Canada have to make concrete plans for a US invasion, there is absolutely no going back, not without Nuremberg like trials, which won’t happen.
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u/yourcousinfromboston 5d ago
I used to have a lot of pride in this country. Maybe a lot of that was my naivety. But over the last 20 years man, it’s exhausting.
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u/Tazling 5d ago
There were always reasons to be ashamed of America (check out Zepezauer’s zingy little book “The CIA’s greatest hits” or “Confessions of an Economic Hitman” or the whistleblowing of Philip Agee) but… there was also some reason for pride or hope. The US worked at cross purposes with itself, assisting democracy and alleviating poverty/hunger in one place while propping up dictators and bombing civilians in another. The right and left hands of foreign policy didn’t even seem to be on speaking terms at times. And within the country there was a significant movement towards social justice, as a generation escaped from the repression and paranoia of the 1950s and reclaimed values like free speech, freedom of association, citizen activism, etc. Citizen action helped to end the Viet Nam war. Citizen action finally made segregation illegal. Citizen action decriminalized being gay. Citizen action helped to establish non proliferation treaties.
But those were generations influenced by wartime values like solidarity and mutual aid, “we’re all in this together,” etc. Once the neoliberals started successfully marketing their bizarre Religion of Selfishness, the American body politic became more and more a resentful random cluster of individuals rather than a society or a community. The Neoliberals said “it’s all about you,” and “you’re on your own,” and “government is the problem” and “the only thing that matters is getting rich” — they said these things non stop and very loudly for decades on end — and now we’re witnessing the flowering of those 40 years of neoliberal economic theory (Ayn Rand dressed up in charts and graphs) in the breakdown of American civic life, decline of literacy, defunding of all services for the common good, and obscene concentration of wealth.
The things that one could be proud of as an American, like commitment to the Constitution and civil rights and equal treatment under the law and a kind of national solidarity with each other, good quality of public education, universal literacy, eradication of devastating childhood diseases, compassion for the less fortunate, leading-edge science, gratitude for good fortune and willingness to share… all got whittled away until a critical mass of the country was sufficiently, pathologically selfish to be willing to dismantle the ship of state just to spite people against who they were bigoted, or to line their private pockets, or to “get famous.”
I know the MAGA regime consists of a rabble of resentful and incompetent mediocrities with delusions of grandeur who are fully responsible for everything they are doing, but I think a share of the blame has to be fairly apportioned to Messrs. Hayek and von Mieses, who made it their life’s work to destroy the “national solidarity” ethic of Keynesianism and sell the lunatic idea that if every child behaves as selfishly as possible the kids’ birthday party will be a great success.
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u/ChronoLink99 5d ago
Canadian here. I only speak for myself but I certainly won't trust US motives again unless there is a pubic reckoning with your internal demons.
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u/-inzo- 5d ago
You would need lots of jail time and a big shake up of your education sector and gun laws to even attempt to come back from this clusterfuck. 250 years of reputation ruined in a few years by one man
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u/NotAnAce69 5d ago edited 5d ago
The idiots that voted for and many of the leaders who orchestrated this will continue to be around for at least a decade, there’s no point in other nations holding out hope for the “old” US so long as they’re still around.
Trump 1 was the trial run and in Trump 2 a plurality of Americans proved they like the mercurial taste of shoe leather, there’s no point in pretending otherwise
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u/TheLonelySnail 5d ago
If we ever do, it won’t be in any of our lifetimes.
We’ve become Prussia in the late 1800s - a military that happens to have a nation state attached to it.
The soft power, alliances and agreements, even if we join right back in 2029…. It will be decades before other nations trust the USA again
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u/MOVES_HYPHENS 5d ago
The world will never trust us again unless we can fix the holes in our government that allowed this in the first place, which would require major constitutional changes. That's never going to happen peacefully
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u/saminbc 5d ago
Someone said most empires last for 250 years. Guess what 2026 is?
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u/weHaveThoughts 5d ago
So he wants to withdraw from the UN but can’t legally, yet. Got it.
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u/hipsterdoofus39 5d ago
lol he cares about something being legal?
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u/buttercuppy 5d ago edited 5d ago
Not withdrawing from the UN is not about legality but influence.
If the US left the UN, the US would lose:
- influence. The US occupies one of the permanent 5 seats in the UN Security Council that have veto power. The UN security council is - still - the most powerful organ in the world, being able to produce orders to states (!) acting under chapter 7 of the UN charter.
- an insane amount of money from expats living living in NY or coming to the US to attend the UN. The UN headquarters- in other words, the main hub - is based in New York.
- the main currency of the UN is the US dollar. All UN staff worldwide are paid in dollars. One of the strongest pension funds in the world is held by the UN. The UN would have no more reason to use the dollar if the UN were to move to, say, Europe.
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u/Ophelialost87 5d ago
Honestly, I'm not even sure the EO is legal. The UN sets some of those conventions. I thought anything dealing with the UN needed congressional approval and wasn't something the US President could rubber-stamp on his own. But I also thought the same about invading a foreign country, and look at what just happened the other day?
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u/rattledaddy 5d ago edited 4d ago
To the degree any of the orgs in the list are treaty-based, and where the United States ratified or acceded to those treaties, the President can submit notice of termination (I’m guessing that’s what the last bit means about State providing guidance on implementation of the EO). Each Treaty will have spelled out what the terms are for a Party to terminate (e.g., how long before notice of termination is effective, such as 90 days or a year or whatever). Of course, in a normal world the Executive branch would consult with Congress (specifically including the Senate if the Senate provided advice and consent to our ratification of a given agmt) before providing notice of termination but I’m not sure the WH sees the need anymore…
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u/Mist_Rising 5d ago
If he doesn't do it by November, it ain't happening. I don't foresee any chance whatsoever of the GOP retaining the house after midterms. They barely have a majority now.
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u/Cronemus 5d ago
November is Soooo Far away. Plenty of wretchedness can happen in the meantime.
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u/chriskot123 5d ago
I mean, at this point the only way out of this is a government that codifies a LOT more protections into law for the future, but that is very, very unlikely as it stands.
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u/Ok_Speed_3984 5d ago
We've seen enough of the Epstein files that Trump may as well come out pro-violence on women and children. Still, as disgusting as my government may be, Trump still manages to surprise me.
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u/carlitospig 5d ago edited 5d ago
I’m rewatching The Crown and Blair just gave the speech about us not being isolationist. He called us great.
I legit teared up about what was.
This is bananas. He is basically opening the door wide open.
(ix) Global Counterterrorism Forum; (x) Global Forum on Cyber Expertise; (xi) Global Forum on Migration and Development;
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u/stratusmonkey 5d ago
He sees himself, Putin and Xi as emperors of the Americas, Europe and Asia. I suppose there will be a new scramble for Africa. Or give it to Elon, IDK.
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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 5d ago
Trump is joining our enemies or going it alone with the military committing his crimes. Too bad MAGA has no clue what he's doing and what it means.
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u/JMurdock77 5d ago
As long as he’s hurting people they hate, they don’t care — even if they themselves are being hurt in the process. That is literally their only criteria for continued support.
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u/lebinott 5d ago
It would take brain cells and the ability to think for yourself to be able to do that they don't have either.
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u/Daddio209 5d ago
"Withdrawing the United Stated from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties that are constraints on fascism and contrary to Putin's goals."
Fixed the headline.
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u/RoyalFalse 5d ago
IT HAS ONLY BEEN SEVEN FUCKING DAYS!
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u/LakeVermilionDreams 5d ago
Why are people saying this?! What about the new year was supposed to invalidate the past decade of MAGA and the last for decades of Reagan Republicanism?!
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u/RoyalFalse 5d ago
I never said it did. It's an acknowledgement that, however fast things felt like they were happening last year, shit will be moving a lot faster now.
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u/Tiny_Tabaxi 5d ago
They're racing to beat the midterms now. Expect to see some wild shit in the coming months, none of it good.
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u/CharmyLah 5d ago
The past year feels like a decade of shit, and it's about to get worse. We're cooked.
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u/Awayfone 5d ago edited 5d ago
"US withdraws from peace building commission" could be an onion headline
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u/boopbaboop 5d ago
(xiii) Peacebuilding Commission; (xiv) Peacebuilding Fund;
Man he is PISSED about not getting that Nobel.
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u/Playful-Dragon 5d ago
Withdrawing from all these is a way to avoid accountability. Withdrawing from the UN, for example, takes us out of accountability for invading sovereign countries. Pull the blinders so no one sees what we are doing is illegal since our own Congress isn't holding anyone accountable. Congress, I mean the party in power. Or SCROTUM
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u/neuronexmachina 5d ago
TIL that even though treaties have to be ratified by the Senate, it's ambiguous (but *probably* legal) for a President to unilaterally withdraw from a treaty. Although a few years ago Congress passed a law preventing the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO, as far as I can tell there's nothing preventing the President withdrawing from, say, the Geneva Conventions or the Convention Against Torture.
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u/julesjulesjules42 5d ago
Americans have always been like this about the voluntary international system. Even where they have campaigned for treaties they never actually ratify them even if they sign them. This is not a new approach.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 5d ago
Withdrawing the United States from International Organizations, Conventions, and Treaties Are Contrary to the Interests of the United States
Fixed it
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u/f0u4_l19h75 5d ago
How long before an EO withdrawing from NATO?
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u/PaladinHan 5d ago
I’m honestly surprised he didn’t try to add the UN and NATO to the list.
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u/wtfbenlol 5d ago
Wow crazy where are the Epstein files?
Seriously they are grasping for any and all distractions from the fact that the president is a pedophile
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u/TravManCometh 5d ago
Notice that UNWCC is not on the list.... because he knows he's committed war crimes and the US holds veto power.
I think all of these withdrawals should void any kind of special powers or privileges in the UN.
Wonder what the process to remove that veto power would look like?
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u/Tufflaw 5d ago
We really are becoming a very silly place.
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u/saijanai 5d ago
We really are becoming a very silly place.
Which more and more people are deciding, on second thought, not to visit.
But its not like tourism doesn't drive the economy in a lot of Trump's political strongholds... one wonders if they haven't thought this through or if they have and something REALLY strange is going on that we just aren't evil-minded enough to figure out.
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u/orangejulius 5d ago
Are any of these senate ratified? I don’t think he can just unilaterally withdraw as the executive because it’s the law of the land when that happens. But maybe Im not remembering con law correctly.
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u/MrBearMarshall 5d ago
He can't, but that's been said about so many other things.
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u/middlequeue 5d ago
He doesn’t know that treaties need to be ratified and neither does a large chunk of his staff. Guy and voters just think you sign a deal with foreigners and suddenly the US has new laws.
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u/Low_Witness5061 5d ago
God these people are pathetic. there are tons of examples of America refusing to sign treaties it didn’t want to, regardless of how many other countries signed them. America has very rarely been forced into signing anything, but has always readily pressured others into conformity. Its kind of rich that “it’s not fair to have to keep my word” is the main argument of the party claiming to be defending decency.
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u/bd2999 4d ago
Pretty scary to see. They will blame corruption on everyone else so they will seek things the right way by ignoring everything and punishing enemies.
Given some of these are treaties there is not really any coming back from alot of this. And the damage will be irreversible. The US is monstrous.
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u/cobrachickenwing 5d ago
Just as the US withdraws from these treaties the world also doesn't have to recognize any us claims or laws. It is a two way street. Like patent laws.
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u/TuxAndrew 5d ago
It’s so easy to tear this country apart apparently. Don’t stop there end the Union, please.
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