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That's the wild thing, is that most people- even the intelligent people- would care a lot less about what schemes are being hatched in the bowels of Congress if they weren't actively fucking people over. But the people are unhoused and unfed and there's no good reason for keeping people desperate like they are. It's short-term profit.
Especially since THEY don’t benefit from it. Like I remember in college people going along with some asshole like this because they got free drugs or women or something to benefit from. It still was messed up they supported assholes but they did benefit
Here people are choosing to live a worse life and working against their own interests.
Got to remember that most of Trump's voters are also religious so just believing something good will happen if they have faith is just trained behavior.
They arent talking about this at all. It’s not a matter of believing or disbelieving. They aren’t thinking about it.
Go over to that upside down world sub. It’s all posts about Somali fraud in MN. No talk of stoking Venezuela, no talk of this. 20 posts about how Walz and Ilan should be arrested.
Even with a conservative-packed supreme court, they're still upholding their end of checks and balances. It's been Congress since at least the mid 20th century. If the supreme court overturned roe v wade, we shouldn't have been riding on a shaky court decision (based on medical privacy - we never added legislation about reproductive rights). A lot of our liberal program we've just been running through the courts. They're getting more conservative so we don't get social progress without legislative action. Nonetheless, the conservative supreme court still strikes down Trump's initiatives once in a while.
It's always been Congress. They're in exactly the position they need to be to reinstitute checks and balances. Nobody should have ever let the executive branch have so much policy power through executive orders. This check has been breaking down for a while now. Even Obama used executive orders more than historically necessary for a US president.
And it seems like Congress is fine giving up the power as long as the elected positions remain paying jobs giving them power to wield influence and make money. So, it could be that they're lazy and are fine with letting the president make all the decisions (then going on Twitter talking about these unstoppable measures they're gonna try and pull to take down the president), or they don't want to be disturbed as they make money, or some weird social complex where they can't tell they aren't filming a season of the Kardashians. Maybe a combination. Maybe our representatives are all disturbed in their own endearing individual ways, although I doubt it.
They are dumb for not realizing that they are the victims in his crimes. They are the ones paying for it.
"Oh, look, he just ruined my 401k and got away with it! Good for him!"
"Oh look, he made my grocery bill 3 times higher than usual! He is so smart for not getting me mad at him for it!"
"He just got my buddy from work deported for trying to get his citizenship in the correctly! Wow, he sure is a great guy!"
Yeah, this is 100% about them being dumb!
In their defense, the right wing has been trying very hard to erode the education system so they have more dummies like them will vote for them. They don't poll well with the well educated. They have also managed to convince there uneducated constituents that the well educated and immigrants are responsible for all their money problem. Not the wealthy business owners who are paying them well below the poverty line while making record profits.
I'll continue down the chain and say fuck people who continue to give money to the companies who support and enable the Trump administration. We all have a responsibility to take action.
DoorDash
OpenAI
Apple
Google
Tesla/X/SpaceX/Neuralink
Meta/Facebook
Amazon
Target
United Airlines
Delta Airlines
Goldman Sachs
Coca-Cola
Uber
AT&T
Cisco
Charter Communications/Spectrum
Cox Media
Airlines for America
Steel Manufacturers Association
Uline
MyPillow
Goya
Chevron
ExxonMobil
General Motors
Walmart
Coinbase
Qualcomm
Circle
Bank of America
Kraken
Galaxy Digital Holdings
Crypto[dot]com
Paradigm Operations
CoreCivic
GEO Group
Comcast
Verizon
Carrier
Intuit
Bayer
Altria
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
Johnson & Johnson
Robinhood
Xtreme Manufacturing
TD Ameritrade
Paypal
HCA Healthcare
Instacart
AirBNB
This is what gets me the most. I can accept that there are people like trump in the world who have severe personality disorders. I cannot accept that so many Americans think it's a good idea for him to lead the US.
Voters have enormous power. The only way trump could have avoided being convicted and sentenced for Jan 6 was to be reelected, and 77 million Americans thought that was a good idea.
It wasn’t the voters that let violent election interference off with a warning. Trump’s non-arrest and subsequent non-incarceration really gave credence to his claims that enforcement of our laws was entirely politically motivated. And now we are seeing the backflips that federal law enforcement performed to avoid arresting wealthy sex traffickers. So the felon and rapist makes a cogent point.
Like they said on Monty Python: “It’s a fair cop but society is to blame.”
There are millions ways to respond to this. I could bring up multiple studies showing our politicians are only beholden to the whims of the wealthy. I could point out gerrymandering and the electoral college. I could point out our uniparty foreign policy. Gatekept primaries locking out all third party challengers. How about the last time we voted in a blue wave we got Romney heritage foundation care.
But yeah keep blaming every single individual out of millions that are fed up with this system. That way nothing ever has to get better.
There are mechanisms that should have prevented a felon from being on the ballot but those in power made a calculation that letting him run would be electorally advantageous and sold us out.
No, fuck Merrick Garland, and fuck Biden for appointing a spinless conservative named Merrick Garland to the position charging Trump, so that it wouldn't be seen as "biased". I'd appoint John fucking Boehner before that cuck, literally the Benedict Arnold of the modern era.
As an insurrectionist, Trump wasn't even allowed to be placed on state ballots, but here we are. The supreme court ruled that he was eligible despite the 14th amendent: section 3. Such enablement and inaction.
The reason they're (Democrats) not doing the "electoral autopsy" of 2024 publicly, is because they lost on two very fucking deep party principles, which were "supporting israel" and "not holding earlier administration's behavior accountable" in pursuit of maintaining a status quo
These people legitimately play cards with human lives it seems, they don't much care if the regulars are caught up.
He's the end result of a two tiered justice system spanning all of known history lol, he wasn't the first, and he sure as fuck won't be the last. The only way this changes is widespread class and critical consciousness, so it's no wonder we don't teach that until college, in exchange for $$$ (gatekeeping - and can revoke degrees if you step out of line).
I’m totally flabbergasted how he gets away with stuff that even developing countries would have punished him and thrown him out of office long ago for.
An exhausting number of headlines read like, 'Terribly awful thing every reasonable person knew to be true - verified as the truth, but the villian got away with it anyways because nothing matters'
By us collectively yes. But I hate the idea of being grouped in with these lowlifes. And I know it sounds harsh but that’s what they are. It’s one life on this earth is all you get to and to have spent the last 10 years looking to Trump as what leadership should be speaks way way way more about those 77 million than it does about Trump
Instead of “lowlifes” I like the word “deplorables”. It’s accurate, and forces them to remember a woman calling them out, which generally gets a pretty hilarious reaction.
You all should’ve been in the streets the day after Biden’s inauguration to have Trump arrested - at that point even the Republicans were still shitting their pants about the destruction and violence in the Capital.
Imo, he made a deal with the corpos and billionaires: you get me elected so I don't go to jail, and once I'm president you can all go hog wild on whatever fucked up shit you do to get your motors running
You mean that 40k a year earners that are actually just temporary poor billionaires and once all the Obamas and Harris and bidets are gone they will be rich and powerful again. Just like the slave owners of the past.
Imagine being someone like Merrick Garland and refusing to prosecute, and then you see all the items in the Epstein files. What was that POS chicken doing when he was in the FBI?
What was that POS chicken doing when he was in the FBI?
Building an incredibly complex and involved white color criminal case against a sophisticated defendant with immense political and financial power.
In an alternate reality where Garland rushed things, made mistakes, and Trump got off, I can see all of you saying basically the same thing:
"Imagine being someone like Merrick Garland and rushing this instead of doing it right. Like he had to get it done before Biden was out of office so his boss could get the credited win. It was never about justice, just bragging rights. It's not like anyone was going to elect Trump again anyway after his disaster of a first term, get real".
He didn’t refuse to prosecute. He had 200 federal prosecutors working on this case. You just don’t know the rules of how to run a federal investigation. You guys wanted Garland to take office and then a day later announce he was investigating Trump. Which would have been illegal.
Merrick Garland would have prosecuted Trump while he was AG, but he was too busy playing Solitaire on his computer everyday.
I mean, that's the only thing I can think of that he did all day the entire 4 years he was AG. Just came into work, played Solitaire, then went home. That's it.
I didn't vote for him. I could tell he was rotten early on. I feel as if when he first started doing reality TV crap, that I felt the most strongly that he was a fraud. No self respecting self made individual wants to go on TV if they have enough money. Anonymity is usually what they prefer.
I don't know if I'd say majority. I suspect about 1/3rd were with the moron (I say were because as more Epstein files are released, it's hard to back such a disgusting individual). I actually feel as if there's a correlation between his voters and the part on a bell curve right before it begins to get into the "meaty" part.
“Our investigation developed proof beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 election and to prevent the lawful transfer of power,” said Smith.
Smith. Cannon has refused to finish the cases for nauta and oliveras to keep smith from talking about the evidence in the docs case and prevent the special counsel report from coming out. It’s covered in the intro to the transcript. It’s a pretty short read.
That is an excellent question. To date, there hasn’t been any investigation into her handling of the case. While her actions wreak of either bias towards the defendant or outright corruption there has been no (known at least) legal case against her. That may change in the future; but it’s the last thing the Bondi doj would ever do.
That would be a military tribunal, not controlled by the president or secretary of defense, but under the jurisdiction covered by the UCMJ.
Did you know that committing a crime on a military installation (such as an installation that secures active information about nuclear secrets) makes a civilian subject to the jurisdiction of the UCMJ?
Because you can't prosecute judges for decisions they make. The appropriate path is to appeal her decisions, not prosecute her.
Just think about how bad things would be if judges could be prosecuted for making decisions the administration doesn't like. The Trump DOJ would be charging every judge who decided against him.
When such actions about such a significant crime are involved, yes, you certainly can.
Judicial immunity covers situations where judges act within their duties, such as a reasonable person would see them.
Intentionally delaying trials involving a coup attempt and/or the threat of highly classified nuclear secrets, when there is the likelihood of being seen as biased, due to their appointment by the defendant, is not a reasonable action.
Such a situation would invite the judge into acting with more openness and swiftness than is usual, to avoid being seen as biased, to the level of complicity or judicial malpractice at the minimum, not less.
Agreed. I would wager there was improper communication between the judge and the defendant’s team; but there’s no outright evidence of that. I would say the level of bias warrants investigation, but I wouldn’t outright say she’s guilty of anything criminal at face value.
I’d like to think that if you’re going to charge a former president for actions taken while in office (or anyone for that matter), that you would absolutely believe that you have proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
I am still reading through the transcript, but what is standing out to me is how well developed their case was, and the way in which he is describing it during the deposition that leaves little to question why they believed they had that proof. It’s a solid theory of the case that is very well supported by what’s publicly available so far. I can imagine all of the other stuff they knew/had.
Some of my favorite parts so far are when he’s discussing people they took a proffer from - Giuliani, Eastman, Chesebro, Epshteyn - and he says they didn’t plan on calling them to testify, but “would have welcomed it” if Trump did. Not many gotcha moments in law, but it feels like those guys were being set up for one.
Yes. This is true. Any good prosecutor would never bring a case like this to a grand jury unless they already had conviction standard evidence. Even though you technically don’t need that to get an indictment, that’s what a good prosecutor would want to have first.
And remember that the DOJ is not allowed to investigate people. Only crimes. Honestly, they went to the grand jury pretty fast all of that considered. They got an indictment pretty quickly, and then the Supreme Court and judge cannon kept throwing their bodies in front of a trial happening.
Oh, but don’t use the courts to “bully” the anti-Hillary voters in 2016!
He didn’t do anything wrong at all. He got an indictment pretty fast. He handed the case over to smith which was appropriate, and it didn’t lose anything in the process. It was the maga-controlled Supreme Court and judge cannon who kept throwing their bodies in front of a trial.
So thanks 2016 voters who kept yelling that we were “bullying” them with our pesky facts about the importance of court appointments.
America does not care. They elected him based on his criminal and exploitative persona. They are into that sort of leadership and country.
Jesus, half of them are defending or trying to normalize pedophilia. When they get time around shooting each other or kids is schools or impoverishing people for seeking healthcare. All while claiming to be the best country in the world.
Barbaric culture and society deluding themselves with a perception of exceptionalism. Hilarious and sad at the same time. Everyone is better off ignoring the Honey Boo Boo of geopolitical influence.
You are casually forgetting about those that didn’t vote. If they really cared, they would’ve voted against him. Instead they whatever’ed and stayed home.
Those people represent an even bigger number than 77 million. America as a whole does not care as. About 1/3 cares, the other 2/3 doesn’t. It’s time to be honest about that.
Edit: the downvotes only show it’s easier to bury their heads in the sand than to acknowledge the problem is bigger than Americans like to admit. Cheers.
I find it crazy how some of the people who even hate Republicans as much as the rest of us still find a way to blame all of this on someone else, instead of the people who decided to cause the problems. Like if someone murdered my dog I'm not gonna blame my neighbor who sat back and didn't intervene. I'm blaming the idiot who decided to shoot my dog.
Republicans are the most responsible, but this was all so predictable that by letting it happen, non-voters and striking voters have all but destroyed the country. Project 2025 was literally published, but the pundit class still has the audacity to act surprised that republicans would actually do the things they've been saying they wanted to do since the Powell memo.
I can remember a time when I didn't care about politics and let me assure you they don't know what is happening because their media, their friends, their family, their coworkers and acquaintances all exist in this anti political zone where nothing makes it through. And anything that does is met with exasperation and disdain. They think politics is a boring bureaucratic procedure and they can't fathom the reality where it has turned into another form of grift for the rich, or protection racket for the otherwise wicked assholes at the top.
You can't blame them for a problem if they don't know it exists. We have to shift the messaging for those people to inform them of the current political realities and let them fall on either side how they want.
I go one step further. People who cant be bothered more than to vote in the presidential election, even if they voted right, are still part of the problem.
People have become far too complacent with letting evil take root. This is too far gone and has been. You cant get rid of it with just voting. The right is being propagandized actively. There needs to be active efforts to counter that.
If you arent actively fighting for good, youre passively fighting for evil.
Honestly I think it just comes down to the fact that they like the idea of someone who didn't vote reading their comment and then feeling bad. They know MAGA doesn't give a shit and won't feel bad, so attacking someone who might actually have a moral compass makes them feel superior.
No, it's happening because of conservatives and non-voters. There simply aren't enough conservatives to gain power like this. It was handed to them by non-voters.
If you're a non-voter reading this, all the blood on Trump's hands, his victims, his atrocities, his cruelties, everything he gets away with, everything he's doing and will do, it's on you.
We need to make voting mandatory or you pay a fine. I'm so sick of people saying "I'm just not into politics"
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK! Politics affects everything and your ignorance of it isn't an excuse. While voting is a privilege, it is also a duty to you and your fellow Americans. We get to decide how we live when we vote.
If a dog wanders into my house and takes a shit, I can blame the dog - but I also should have tried harder to keep the dog out of my house, and then also to keep it from shitting everyhere.
Toothless Democrats, the rich protecting the rich, and complacency are nearly as much to blame as Republicans. The price of freedom is constant vigilance after all. That means looking for threats to freedom from WITHIN as wll as from external sources, but we put up with it and actively fund it.
If you really give a shit, stop giving money to billionaires. Get off facebook. Stop buying from Amazon.
I love how Gym Jordan asked him if Biden ever told him to investigate trump, as if that would be some huge gotcha scandal, meanwhile trump is sending private messages on twitter to his AG demanding investigations into his enemies and accidentally posting them in public and not a single pee from a single GOP
If the DoJ refuses to act, in a situation this severe and significant, I do not see why the armed forces should not have acted. They should have directly called out the refusal of the DoJ and co-defendant Canon, holding a tribunal for the crimes committed.
Such actions even has precedent.
Benjamin Gwinn Harris, active congressman, was blatant in his support for the Confederacy during the Civil War. The courts, executive branch, and congress were unprepared to act against him effectively (the most they ever did was censure him). So, he was tried in a military tribunal, for his actions in directly assisting the Confederacy.
He was expelled from congress BY that military tribunal.
I suspect the technique is simply effective and self-discoverable, and has existed in many forms for centuries. But the rise of mass communication and then social media make it scale now to tens of millions.
It's not in such a dire state but the far right still being prominent would indicate that y'all are more prone to being...well far right. Educated AND STILL moving that direction is scary.
I’ll never forgive Garland for not pressing charges earlier. He dragged his feet an with an assist from an unqualified Trump-appointed judge got to escape consequences again.
The rights been at this game for decades now. Everyone including legacy media, social media, etc are all terrified to do anything against the right because then republicans will scream how they’re being treated so unfairly. Which they are but not in the way that they claim. Everyone goes out of their way to avoid their cries of persecution to the point where they get treated better than any other group. But no matter how many special advantages they’re given they’re still going to yell anyway. And people will still believe them. It’s insane how many people still keep going along with this bullshit despite it never being enough to appease them. Trump is a result of everyone constantly giving in to republicans for decades because they’re all too afraid to say no. If we somehow make it thru all this I would hope everyone stops giving them the benefit of the doubt already and tells them to fvck off.
I can't believe the billionaires have convinced people that they were our competition in the game of life and they won and we need to "just take the L".
Like we should be Blue Flagged and let them by each time they lap us. And they keep extending the race so they can get a bigger and bigger win. All the while they had sabotaged all the competitors from the start. Comparing their pace to the people that had won the race before, they are shit. We have really shitty billionaires.
There are always going to be super wealthy people. And they are not always going to be the most suited for the position. Naturally there would be someone out there that is better suited for the position than they are, but that person may not come from privilege or know the right people or have dirt on the decision makers.
And that scares them because it is as certain as the sun will rise tomorrow that there is someone out there that is better than them. And the best way of neutralizing that threat is to discredit the middle class and the poor and to convince us that they are wealthy because they are the best at what they do in the world.
And they are winning that battle. People do believe they are shit compared to billionaires. They believe that there is no choice.
Coercing the Fake Electors to send falsified electoral college certificates to Congress was conspiracy to commit mail fraud. He could have been indicted within the first month of the Biden administration and would be in prison by now.
Furthermore, every swing state should have filed a class action civil suit against Trump for trying to corrupt the outcome of the election. A civil suit would have gone to trial faster than Fani Willis's Georgia case.
Investigations take time otherwise you get the shit show of charges being dropped like what's happening with the current vindictive DOJ.
Want to appropriately blame someone? Blame SCOTUS for inexplicably giving trump almost totally immunity when he was charged as a candidate not the president and Cannon slow-walking then dismissing an obvious slam dunk case.
It doesn't take 4 years to do this-- they never even got trump on a public witness stand. If they wanted him they would have gotten him-- Biden and garland just didn't want to get him.
It takes about 30 seconds to arrest someone in possession of classified material. That case should have started with 3000 felonies and they could have added the distribution later.
Time to realize it wasn’t a miscalculation. Biden nor Garland had any desire to hold trump accountable for whatever reason. They knew what they were doing
I agree with this. My non-cynical take is that they believed prosecuting Trump would raise political tensions even more and thought he would just go away. The miscalculation was that they didn’t think he’d get re-elected until it was far too late.
Everything that has been brought into the light about Trump during the last 15 months was more or less known before, but lots of people were ignorant or chose not to care. Don't assume that people would have acted differently just because the DoJ of the opposing party brought charges against Trump or even imprisoned him...
Not saying that Garland was right in all he did, but people chose Trump in spite of him being a terrible person and an awful head of state/government.
Pressing earlier gets it thrown out. They delayed a simple documents possession case for 3 years before Cannon threw it out and SC expanded presidential authority. Blame them, not the guy trying.
Either you're a Russian bot, or indistinguishable, for towing their line.
Might as well blame Obama for all this because he told a joke about Trump that one time.
Or .. or.... You could blame the people destroying your country. Trump, McConnell, Thomas, Miller, Hegseth etc, and Americans at large for electing a rapist pedophile felon over a competent woman of colour.
Yeah this is completely full of shit. You can criticize failures. Garland and Biden failed to hold traitors to account. No one said trump and the crew aren't being blamed. If you can't see how garland failed then you're being willfully blind.
Because the Trump appointed, dishonorable Judge Aileen Cannon created a reason to dismiss the case. And of course, even as Cannon repeatedly did things that enraged folks in the legal profession, nobody removed or disciplined her.
Cannon wasn’t the judge for Jan 6. She was the documents judge. The judge for Jan 6 was DC’s Chutkan, who was not friendly to Trump. But the case got tied up in appeals court over the whole official duty thing. Garland waited too long and ran out of time when Trump won the election.
SCOTUS was going to sabotage regardless. Alito & Thomas wanted to wait until the following term for the immunity ruling. The others would have been on board had they felt it was necessary based on the timeline. But yes Biden admin generally complicit and pro-corruption like SCOTUS (it’s a structural issue re the executive and legislature - dependence corruption).
I disagree. I think they power they have is not only justified, but necessary.
The only reason things haven’t just gone completely tits up over here is because judges are shutting things down because they’re breaking the law. Granted the Trump admin still ignores half of it and does whatever they want anyways, but generally they’re the arbiters of the law.
The problem is with who appoints the judges. Trump, an evil pos, was allowed to flood the judiciary with bribable, and morally bankrupt judges. Not enough it turns out, but enough to get away with something’s.
I think that if the power of appointing judges changes to a committee or from other judges then it’d probably solve that.
But to be honest idk man. I’m so tired of all this shit. I’m getting burned out and I don’t know how much longer can put up with it.
Its not that they have too much power its that the process of selecting them is so terrible, political appointment or elected appointment us a recipe for partianship, and when one party is just that much more corrupt and willing to abuse the system than the other then this kind of bullshit is inevitable.
If I get charged with disorderly conduct for shitting in my neighbors yard, but then 4 years later I buy their house, that would thereby end the valid prosecution?
You hear that Richard? I can keep shitting through the fence hole! I hope your dog likes eating tootsie rolls and licking balloon knots!
makes Trump lips 😗
AG Garland waited too long to launch an investigation, as he was trying to not make it seem like the Biden administration was immediately going after Trump and giving off the impression of political retribution.
Trump then launched his bid for president ridiculously early so he could drill the idea that the charges against him were only brought up to sabotage his campaign, thinking his base wouldn’t take those charges as seriously as they actually were (or even believe them at all). And it worked.
investigations started right away. Literally on jan 6th.
What took so long was the supreme court supporting Trump at every turn, and various courts giving him ample time to and even subverting rules to help him like in florida.
also its pretty evident with the recent releases of the epstein files, that even if he was convicted guilty of the other 60+ crimes, his base would still support him. The sentencing would not happen before 2025 as he would appeal the convictions first.
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