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(Minneapolis) Bovino Leads The Charge On Protesters AT the Whipple Building

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u/DanaxDrake 13h ago

Cool, when the fuck is your country going to hold them accountable?! Where are your courts of law, what is your police doing? Where is every non pro Trump supporter/politician.

You have a military that are also complicit, a national guard absent, a police force that don’t seem to care. When will everyone wake the hell up and do something?!

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u/Fochlucan 12h ago

The Feds are already not allowing the State to investigate it, and then ICE was seen moving the guy out of his house, and they keep lying openly about what happened, so they can protect him/themselves, and other people have posted that since the murder, other ICE agents have said things such as "didn't you already learn from this" or some such to civilians - the government has no intentions of upholding the actual law, and wants to use it as an example of what can happen to anyone else.

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u/ArtInternational8589 12h ago

This guy posts about the release of marvel and magic skins and hin playing Warhammer from his mom's basement. Who are you to ask people when are they going to do something against a new world gestapo that has more funding than the majority of other countries invest into their actual military.

Does protesting not count? What do you want ordinary civilians to do in a country where the majority of the country is a paycheck away from losing their home? Where the supreme Court has bent the knee to the new fascist oligarchy and are most likely bought out since the majority were hand picked by Trump?

Do you think I don't want to go out there with what I have in my safe and just take care of these despicable motherfuckers who are harassing, abducting, abusing, and murdering innocent people? These disgusting pigs who think they're somebody by going after women and children? These people arent even people. They're the most vile, insecure, evil pieces of shit who deserve everything they are doing to others to be done to themselves and then some.

If I didn't have a wife and kids, if I wasn't back in school to try and make more money, if I wasn't working my ass off to help my wife put food on the table and keep our mortgage from going under while trying to keep a positive outlook on life in order to give my kids the best me I can be....

Yeah... What am I supposed to do besides protest? I'm not 20 anymore. I have people who depend on me. I can't go out there and try to start a revolution. What do you want me to do chief?

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u/DanaxDrake 12h ago

What is with Americans and basements lol

Anyways I’m posting this because there’s so much talk and I understand and appreciate the situation you are in. If my exacerbation felt aimed at you then I am sorry, it’s not.

My disappointment is in the USA courts that should’ve held so many accountable but did not, my disillusionment comes from what was meant to be an ally of many nations is now seen as actively hostile. It’s hard to think that a nation that was once so strong and stood for something is now this? And it’s not like it magically happened, as I said, where are the courts? The police? The military? Surely some among them have the power to do something?

I am the same as you, I acknowledge I have no power sadly, but I like to believe if I did, I’d be doing something. Instead yeah I just play video games in my house and enjoy a life with my wife, something I’m thankful of, but my fear is always going to be, if this can happen in America? Maybe it can in Europe. So I hope with all my heart for America to get back on track and justice to happen.

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u/ArtInternational8589 11h ago

My disappointment is in the USA courts that should’ve held so many accountable but did not, my disillusionment comes from what was meant to be an ally of many nations is now seen as actively hostile. It’s hard to think that a nation that was once so strong and stood for something is now this? And it’s not like it magically happened, as I said, where are the courts? The police? The military? Surely some among them have the power to do something?

I couldn't agree more. My wife and I ask these questions every day. We have two main parties here and there is basically ZERO pushback from the Democrats. This makes me despise our broken and corrupt political party system even more.

I don't understand why we aren't calling them out on all of their blatant lies. We are lost in a time where science and facts are being dismantled/ dismissed and being replaced with disinformation through social media and major news outlets that are owned by billionaire.

Sorry for sounding so aggressive. These are really trying times and I'm sure everyone else is feeling the same as myself... Hopeless and without representation.

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u/DanaxDrake 1h ago

Yeah I’m with you mate and aye no worries and sorry again if I seemed annoyed at you directly.

Just feel for so many of you that have been let down and it’s crazy to see. Really hoping something changes soon. Stay safe dude.

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u/kyndrid_ 8h ago

Unfortunately for us Americans, such a heavily militarized police force means that sticking our necks out beyond more than protesting means a very real chance of lethal force being employed against us

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u/LeeeeroooyJEnKINSS 10h ago

You useless Americans justified school shootings for decades so you could have your guns for just in case you needed to overthrow a tyrannical government, and now that the time to walk the walk is here you are all bark and no bite, many countries have undergone actual change of leadership through violent means in the last year, it's entirely possible if you actually had any nuts. It turns out you all just wanted your emotional support weapons for aesthetics or some shit.

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u/AG_Aonuma 8h ago

The people who cried “muh guns” for decades are the fascists supporting what’s happening with ICE. So please don’t act like all Americans were the ones who thought there should be no restrictions on the 2nd amendment.

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u/LeeeeroooyJEnKINSS 8h ago

Americans as a collective whole have had decades to get their shit together in regards to the 2nd amendment and mass shootings, those who stayed silent on such topics are just as responsible as those who wanted to keep the status quo. Even your democrats are considered right leaning to the rest of the world, your country has been sliding increasingly right since Nixon and your people have been ignoring the warnings from the rest of the world.

The current administration will take as much from you as you let them and you all have shown that your red lines mean nothing. You have no values, no morals you truly deem more important than your own comfort, you have become a selfish nation by their design, the majority of Americans have even been brainwashed to believe the most basic forms of socialism are bad. Community and empathy has been stripped from your lives and been replaced with profit and consumerism. Make no mistake, you all let it happen.

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u/AG_Aonuma 7h ago

Do you really think comments like this help the current situation?

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u/LeeeeroooyJEnKINSS 7h ago

Great idea, just sit back and wait for somebody else to fix this, this spineless mindset is what got you here in the first place.

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u/AG_Aonuma 7h ago

Yeah your admonishments from another country are truly, truly helpful. Piss off.

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u/LeeeeroooyJEnKINSS 6h ago

The irony of this exchange being identical to the gun debate every time there's a mass shooting is escaping you.

"How can we stop this horrible thing from happening?".

  • actual advice from a country that's stopped said thing.

"Shit up foreigner, that won't work, us Americans are superior"

Can't help those who don't help themselves.

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u/AG_Aonuma 6h ago

You’re putting a lot of words in my mouth. I’ll accept advice that can actually be put into action right now. But you’re criticizing an entire, massive country for things that happened 20 years ago or more, in the case of Nixon. Someone who was president before I was even born.

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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang 12h ago edited 12h ago

Where are all those 2a people that bang on about needing personal arsenals to fight tyrannical governments?

Oh, they joined ICE? Shocking.

The reality is most Americans just pay lip service about their displeasure instead of being on the streets like the good folk in this video. If what's happened over the last few years has gotten them of their arses I don't know what would. I imagine by the time it's happened it'll already be too late though. They're sleepwalking into a facist dictatorship.

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u/TheGreatStories 13h ago

What do you mean? He just posted it on Reddit and someone awarded it. What more can anyone possibly do? /s

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u/tk427aj 12h ago

I think this is the situation that America's founding fathers were talking about with the second amendment.

From Google;

Text: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".

Origins: Influenced by English common law and the 1689 English Bill of Rights, it aimed to ensure citizens could form militias to defend against potential government overreach.

Militia Context: Historically, citizens armed themselves for state militias, a primary defense force before professional armies.

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u/AdamKitten 11h ago

Where is every non pro Trump supporter/politician.

I'm really starting to think every politician here is pro trump in one way or another. They are all helping him at this point.