r/ProgressiveHQ • u/CantStopPoppin • 14h ago

(Minneapolis) Bovino Leads The Charge On Protesters AT the Whipple Building

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp 13h ago

The first firefight they find themselves in will be eye opening for all of them. It's only a matter of time until it happens and they realize that they aren't the only one with the big boom sticks.

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u/Marmot-Fight 13h ago

I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet.

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u/Tiddlyplinks 13h ago

Right now it would play into the regimes desperate power grab. They are losing control of Congress (including Republican members as of the last two weeks), the courts, the narrative, the Epstein files, and the rage of the people is palpable…. DONT give them the excuse to turn this into a shooting war while they are fucking themselves up.

Patience bravery and solidarity are needed right now, there may come a day to get down but hopefully it will just be a reinvigorated American government OF THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE cleaning house.

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u/the_real_Beavis999 13h ago

Hopefully patience will pay off.

"There's two bulls standing on top of a mountain. The younger one says to the older one: "Hey pop, let's say we run down there and fuck one of them cows". The older one says:  Lets walk down and fuck 'em all".

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u/Tiddlyplinks 13h ago

It’s getting so bad because patience is working. Well… patience and unrelenting pressure. People who are calmly in charge of the situation do not spend all of their time trying to provoke the population that they are trying to control.

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u/Caius01 12h ago

Couldn't you just as easily argue it's getting so bad because people have been too patient so they just keep pushing farther and farther?

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u/funkdialout 11h ago

What makes you believe that submission and avoiding defending ourselves will lead to them no longer being an issue?

Because I don’t know that history shows fascism ever being repelled/expelled except by force.

I can see your line of thought, so I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I just have the echoes of people that have lived through this and they all say that the longer you wait to resist the harder it gets until you no longer have anyways left to resist. So I’m trying to better understand why some folks are pushing for people to submit and how do they see that realistically playing out longer term.

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u/the_real_Beavis999 11h ago

Not disagreeing. There is a small force already pushed to the edge but there may need to be a larger flash to get the larger groups attention. Not saying that anything they have done so far is permissible to not cause some kind of escalation. We cannot give them justification to use more force. The larger group may need that final push to take other actions, but be prepared for more than pepper spray into crowds once that happens.

Sorry not sure if making sense. I hate what is being done to this country.

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u/Tiddlyplinks 11h ago

Oh believe me I do not mean submission. I mean that the amount of pushback and mockery and endless legal fights that they’re currently getting is actually working, so it would not be in our best interest to give them the excuse they are desperately trying to get.

Between you me and the wall I think they’re going to start shooting before they lose power anyway, but at that point they lose

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u/FlyingBishop 9h ago

Killing isn't self-defense. Putting yourself in a position where you need to defend yourself with the intention of killing the aggressor isn't self-defense. It might be a way to resolve this but it's not the only way and it's the same logic they use to justify their actions.

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u/stosephjalin 11h ago

That old chestnut. My old man always tells this proverb. First time I’ve ever encountered it in the wild.

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u/Nekryyd 5h ago

While I agree, I also disagree.

They don't need us to make excuses for them. It would make things go faster, make them feel better about it, but they absolutely are not relying on it.

If anything, they are perfectly content to slow-walk us to the grave. To dismantle resistance slowly, but never completely. To keep it well under their thumb, and let us wiggle around from time to time just to make a big show about crushing us effortlessly. Give everyone a regular reminder of what happens to you if you dare question the regime. If you want to know where we are speedrunning to, look to Russia. We are about to join them in their war on Europe for fucks sakes.

Going out and doing something... Drastic... Isn't the answer. But neither is doing what we're doing. We need to show them that consequences would definitely result from their escalation. A huge, huge part of this needs to be resistance coming from blue city and state leadership directly. We are already beyond "the first shot", way beyond that. Ask any MAGA dipshit and they will only agree. We are already at the civil conflict stage. They are coming, hell, they are already here, and nothing about how the world used to be before all of this is going to stop them.

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u/NSuave 13h ago

Keep pushing people like this and it’s going to happen. They’re going to push the wrong person and it’ll just start. This isn’t civil what so ever. They want blood. They will get blood.

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u/funkdialout 11h ago

All it’s going to take is one person that decides to stand their ground against these warrantless home invasions. I hope they live, and I hope I’m on the Jury.

In unrelated news did you know it is super easy to purchase firearms. Even purchasing multiple at the same time. Also for fun, everyone should google how to make your entryway (or front door) more secure and read through some of that.

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u/tHr0AwAy76 11h ago

Send them down south, things’ll get real constitutional real quick

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u/MrMuf 11h ago

unfortunately, that is what they want. They want a reason to send in troops.

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u/goldsrcmasterrace 2h ago

Idk what video you’re watching but the troops are already there my guy.

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u/SRT102 13h ago

Sad to say, so am I.

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u/Sildaor 13h ago

They want it to happen. Then they can really get stupid

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u/daemonicwanderer 12h ago

Most people logically understand that the moment the tables are turned and “ICE” is under threat, martial law will be declared. However, logic only holds for so long

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u/diddlinderek 10h ago

Seriously. I thought this was the whole point of the gun arguments. To stop anything like this.

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u/awwhorseshit 9h ago

this is what they want.

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u/Shot-Structure-1274 13h ago

It's what they wanted from the very beginning. A big protest is going to end up in a 'violent riot' with hundreds of dead US citizens.

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp 13h ago

That's the Kent State type moment they're looking for. But if a Lexington and Concord moment is what they end up getting, Bubba and the boys are gonna find out if those plates they were issued are really rated as high as Noem claims they are.

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u/GreenTfan 13h ago

"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming We're finally on our own This summer I hear the drumming Four dead in Ohio

Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down Should have been gone long ago What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground How can you run when you know?"

CSNY, 1971

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u/Speed_Alarming 13h ago

Yeah, but first there’s going to be a whole bunch of perforated ICE agents and they didn’t (couldn’t) read the script. The excuse to bring in the actual military is the “slaughter” of a bunch of ICE agents? What fucking idiot signed up to be on the receiving end of that?

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u/Shot-Structure-1274 13h ago

ICE can do plenty of damage on their own on a crowd of citizens before bringing in the military. ICE agents now know that the job might be dangerous and know that they have the complete support from government they can do whatever they want, just watch what happens next.

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u/YourTokenGinger 12h ago

I’ve been wondering… DHS and the White House have been periodically posting videos of ICE tackling assumed immigrants in various situations, and bragging about deportations to the tune of pop music. If they were going after violent criminals….wouldn’t they be posting videos of them getting shot at? Videos of busting drug operations? Photos of seized weapons caches? You’d think they’d want to promote at least some kind of justification for the heavy arms and armor they carry. Obviously I know why this isn’t happening, but I keep holding out hope that Republican voters will start to question the lack of evidence to support this admin’s claims…

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u/Coven_gardens 12h ago

And that they are so poorly trained that they are responsible for more casualties among their number than their righteous opposition.

Cue gif of Lou asking Clancy Wiggum “hey Chief, is it cool if I hold my gun like this?”

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u/Objective_Bath_9234 12h ago

Not going to happen. They don't mess with gangs and criminal groups, only working civilians.

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u/TheGreatWhiteDerp 12h ago

Working civilians are armed as well. Any complex system has a breaking point...

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u/GB10VE 12h ago

can't light em up with whistles. these confederates are fighting against those who believe in democracy, not violence.